Arguments for why lolicon causes harm?

[JustLurking]

It’s a good idea for a thread, although one note:

@anon73034514

I think I’m getting closer to being able to tell myself I haven’t caused harm to minors with the compulsion to look up lolicon that I had until just recently, but a part of me still demands rationalization

I have an issue with this approach of yours. Don’t try to convince yourself something you don’t truly believe in. Just because someone says something, doesn’t have to mean it’s true. Mistakes do happen, after all, I’m only human, I can make mistakes too, and I don’t double-check every piece of information I remember. So better research the topic and your concerns on your own, to develop a more trustworthy base of knowledge about your dilemma, than to just blindly accept other peoples informations as truthful, be it people in here, or somewhere else.

Even assuming that creating a demand for artificial works somehow translates to the harm of some minor, it such an extremely farfetched concept of a crime that it simply bears no significance, especially considering, you haven’t done it purposefully, and you had no intention of harming anyone.

You are kind of worried that you have contributed to a stabbing of an innocent person by buying yourself a kitchen knife, and supporting the knife factory with your money, that allowed the production of that knife that was used as a weapon. No one would blame you for that and so you shouldn’t blame yourself.

If you are comfortable in pursuing your life without using lolicon arts and having fantasies of such theme, and using the help of counselling, then simply continue to do it, and don’t worry about what happened in the past. People make mistakes, but the goal is to learn from them. That is what ultimately matters and makes a person a good human being in the end.

As for the thread, considering your situation:

@anon73034514

I’ve had unwanted pedophilic thoughts practically my entire adult life, but have managed to keep them from making me harm or sexually abuse or exploit minors - or so I’ve thought. In the past, these thoughts led me to compulsively look up drawn and written pornographic material featuring children

@anon73034514

I worry that, in a roundabout way, I have harmed minors by doing so because by adding to the viewcounts of these works, I have potentially given impetus to the creation of more such works, which in turn can have harmful effects (they can be used for grooming, and exposure to them can affect the way people perceive adult/child sexuality and lead them to believe that treating children as sexual objects is admissible and desirable).

@anon73034514

I don’t consider myself a Minor Attracted Person because, by and large, I don’t feel true sexual attraction towrds children. The notion of being sexually involved with a child has consistently been repulsive to me on a visceral level beyond just the moral concerns involved, and outside “fits” of looking up drawn/written child pornography and experiencing intruding ““fantasies””, what has given me actual sexual satisfaction and what I’ve willingly and pleasurably sought out has been different kinks entirely.

My argument about lolicon causing harm would be to state, that since lolicon arts are too extremely distinct from how real sexual intercourse with a real child looks like, a lot of people without an interest in minors could find it erotically appealing. And because of the constant association of lolicon with pedophilia, it might make some of such people feel intense emotional distress, cause an identity crisis and more, as a side effect, making them believe that they are potentially going to rape a child. Albeit it’s more of harm of how lolicon is portrayed by other people, rather than something integral to these arts.

Considering your worries sounds like the repetitive points of people opposing lolicon arts with passion, I get the feeling that you heard about them, rather than created them on your own. These unconfirmed hypotheses that were spread, had certainly caused you a lot of trouble, by making you convinced, that you have indirectly harmed a lot of minors. So once again, it’s more an argument of how the perception of lolicon causes harm, rather than lolicon itsel.

I will also share a link to my post from that thread of yours, with the arguments that:

1. Lolicon can be used for child grooming.
2. Lolicon can make a person exposed to it, perceive and treat children as sex objects in an admissable and desirable manner.

Lolicon end-users morally culpable for ill effects of lolicon?

Let me answer your concern from the perspective of a person who has been sexually exploited as a child multiple times. Albeit, I don’t really like to talk about my past, neither I find the specifics of it all that important or interesting, so I will try to spare the details if that is fine with you. I’m also was never interested in minors of any ages, in case if you are wondering what my bias is about this topic. I do have a bias about this topic, naturally, everyone will, but I take it under c…