CSA survivors very angry at Prostasia

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I don’t know if I was understood the way I intended ^^". Perhaps I used the term pedophilia incorrectly. Anyway, whenever I referred to pedophilia in a “negative” sense, I referred to the practice and not the person’s condition of finding children attractive. I don’t think anyone chooses to feel sexual attraction to anything, so nobody should be punished in any way for that. But I think everyone is in a position to “suppress” any sexual desires. So in my view, people have this prejudice against pedophiles precisely because in their minds, pedophiles are unable to control themselves, which again, in my perception is pure ignorance.

Now about lolicon, I have to say that I would be the first one to be harmed by everything I propose, because, besides being a consumer, I also wish to create content of this kind. Like, not being able to trade it would certainty harms me in every way possible. BUT, I am willing to give up that right just to be able to live peacefully with the part of the population that finds it “disgusting”. What I could add here is an exception about donations. Like, I believe it is a good idea to ban advertising and direct trade of lolicon content, BUT I also think I would be more beneficial than harmful to allow groups that already consume this content to make donations to people who creates it. Also note that I am aware that this is not a perfect solution, but in my view it is the best solution that we have. And again, I’m not encouraging anyone to put this idea into practice, I know many lolicons would hate my idea ^^", Anyway, I’m just commenting about it.

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I don’t think villanizing people with mental illness is going to make them better. Also this forum is at least trying to find helpful coping mechanisms for pedophiles where as all the people in this thread who are against this forum have not given any helpful alternatives to help pedophiles get better or at the very least cope. It can be a very permanent mental illness from what I understand and telling these people that they are evil, or saying they need help yet shitting on the people who try to help us a pretty shitty thing to do. As a sexual abuse survivor, I feel as though all the posts here are very anti child abuse and are trying to accommodate these people who are struggling and give pedophiles an outlet that doesn’t involve abuse. So provide some valid solutions to these problems and maybe people will listen. And don’t just say that “go to therapy” bullshit. Because while therapy can be extremely beneficial, the mistreatment of non offending pedophiles is a problem on a societal scale. It is a mental illness and is not the persons fault. Same as depression or autism. Doesn’t mean a depressed person has the right to lash out and break the law due to there disorder but at least they are given help and understanding. Stop being part of the problem

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Anti’s never offer advice or a solution they just want someone to hate

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Sexy alcoholic drink commercials be like:

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I missed this old thread. CSA survivors should look at childlike sex dolls as a solution. Rather than someone hurting another person they can have a doll. Problem is, the adult that hurt you isn’t interested in them. leaving dolls as a moot point. Neither promoting sexual assault toward children or preventing it. But more likely helping prevent it moreso.

When it comes to dolls, people let their imaginations run riot. Unfortunately it seems all anyone EVER focuses on is the sexual angle. Knowing it’s a doll, their first question ALWAYS is, if you can “use” it sexually. Not “oh, how pretty!” or “How cute!”. Nope! Always imagining the worst, conflating the doll to be a real child, as if, in their mind, someone’s doing that to their daughter. “How disgusting!”

Instead why doesn’t anyone focus on how pretty they are? The effort creating them and expense and time of buying one. True predators are not interested nor willing to invest the money or time acquiring one. How about how someone could love them as a surrogate child? Why would using the doll sexually be OK versus using a real child? We know doing sexual things with a real child is just plain wrong! But because it’s a doll, an inanimate thing, that makes it OK? Well, technically it is OK! It’s not a person!

The marketing and the fact that they’re built with “love holes” is what’s most damaging to their reputation. The argument of “primary purpose” comes to an impass when someone buys one and orders it without the “love holes”. A fair share of doll owners don’t buy them for sexual gratification. And most don’t bother ordering them as “non-functional”. It generally doesn’t cross their mind. They buy them to supplant the real child they don’t have or will never have. To be cherished and loved!

Using dolls to criminalize everyone is no different than using these same arguments against gun ownership. A gun’s primary purpose is to fire a projectile. Many times used to kill a person. Conflating dolls as real children is akin to saying all gun owners will eventually kill someone. Much more serious than a person using an object for sexual gratification. Back to guns, making it non-functional makes it a replica. Not a device that could be lethal. Do the same gun laws apply then?

We can stretch these same arguments to knives, hammers, automobiles; anything a person can use to do something nefarious. At what point does it become ludicrous!

The real monsters want to see the fear in a child’s eyes when they assault them for the first time. They see the child as an opportunity to “get off”. Most offenders aren’t pedophiles. Likely with the child not saying anything, being shamed or feared into silence; and/or the parent being unaware of the abuse taking place. It’s truly evil to assault a young person.

I have dolls because circumstances have not provided me with the opportunity to have children. My dolls are ny surrogate family. Before I understood much about them, I ordered them “as is”. Seeing they’re marketed that way IS the problem. Not as life-size, realistic dolls or surrogate companions. I have no interest in having sex with my children real or imagined. They can’t help how they’re made. Neither can I. However the last two I special ordered as just dolls. Hadn’t realized I could order them without the “love” holes until I did! I’ll never “use” any of my childlike dolls.

I love them dearly! They have helped fill that parental desire in me. If I get busy and don’t play with them for a while, no one gets hurt, or angry, or upset. No one dies from starvation. And for the few people that have found them to be consolation for their grief of a lost child. A particular email I saw about a woman who lost her children and used dolls as surrogates is what inspired me to look past the sexual marketing and see them as a solution to my dilemma.

We’re not sex fiends and perverts looking to “practice” anything!! In fact, most doll owners to my knowledge, being part of a doll community for some years now, have no interest in ever hurting a real child. They love their dolls more! We become more caring, loving, and respectful of others. Interested in make-up, hair, and fashion to make our dolls look their best!

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“Child sex dolls only seek to normalize these demented thoughts”.

AND…??? There is nothing wrong with fantasies or thoughts as nobody is getting hurt. Your comment is clear evidence of approval of thought police. Sex, masturbation, and demented fantasies ARE things people have been doing since ancient times. Maybe not with silicone child sex dolls, but there were other objects and people still used their imaginations. Therefore, YES, banning child sex dolls IS just like the war on drugs: the persecution of innocent people who want to experiment with the sexual part of their minds without the involvement of ANY victims and with ZERO FUCKING EVIDENCE that any victims get involved.

I am frankly sick and tired of people like you, who continue to spread misinformation, paranoia, and bullshit like this post. I hope that one day something you like and that is victimless gets criminalized, and that you get thrown in prison for good, so that you see what it feels like to have a victimless activity you enjoy become a crime.

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they literally don’t, though. their whole idea is based on the notion of social contagion, whereby if people express or engage/indulge in something harmful publicly, regardless of the nuance or intentions or context, it will lead to people thinking it’s not that bad.

Child sex abuse is bad. Adult-child sex is a form of child exploitation and abuse.
But dolls are not children, and the idea of exactly what a ‘child’ is, in this context, is far more nuanced because nobody is looking at this doll like it is a stand-in for an actual child in the context of engaging in acts of CSA; the mere existence and use of the dolls, even their limited popularization, would not enable people to think that adult-child sex is suddenly okay, even among those who have a sexual interest in children and use these dolls as compensatory in that regard.

Those who unironically rely on ‘normalization’ as an argument are probably too uninformed to recognize that they’re parroting rhetoric designed to perpetuate panic and overlook complexity and nuance. The claims are innately speculative, not factually-based.

I actually was reading through an article published by ‘The Critic’, written by Ms. Octavia Sheepshanks, a British journalist, who tries to address arguments that AI-generated VCP is harmless. All of her arguments are not based in facts, and those facts which she clings to are not representative, and are rather a failure of moderation.

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I would argue that even widespread popularization of the dolls would not make people believe that child sexual abuse is okay. Nerf guns are extremely popular, and the vast majority of people do not believe that shooting others and killing for fun is okay.

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I wonder if they’ll ever realize how arrogant and totalitarian they sound when they say things like “I don’t want you to think thoughts I don’t like”.

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Not pretending that a doll is precious doesn’t compare with failing to feel protective of the precious.

Can anyone imagine someone asking for forgiveness for not pretending that a doll is precious?

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May as well also seize big-breasted dolls, as well as dildos, pockets, because these also victimize and objectify human beings, allowing perverts to do as they will do.

I am at least glad that there are actually no humans harmed when someone purchases these intending to use them as an alternative.

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Dude, not every single child sexual abuse survivor hates protasia, there are people here who have gotten abused themselves. It means nothing what some people feel like about it. Plus, there’s nothing to prohibit child sex dolls. It’s like banning personal ownership.

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