I saw someone who took my words out of context, and tried to ruin the reputation of Prostasia, by pretending Prostasia is supporting pedophiles on the forum.
NOTE ===> The false claims will be THICKENED.
Here is the photo i saw uploaded as “asnwer” to one of my posts here on this forum.
LINK TO THE PHOTO: Imgur: The magic of the Internet
Now, im starting to debunk the lies:
"this user is a crazy conspiracy theorist who think pedophilia is a myth"
This claim is about me. This claim is false. Im NOT “a crazy conspiracy theorist”, and i didn’t say pedophilia is a myth.
What i said? I said pedophilia is surrounded by myths and stereotypes that create distraction from the reality, and further stigmatize innocent people. I also said that if someone want to convince me that pedophilia is a disease, this “someone” must provide evidence of the existence of genetic mutations that lead to brain changes that lead to dysfunction. I want to see evidence of dysfunction.
"they believe that “far-right evangelicals” are against pedophilia"
I didn’t say that only the far-right evangelical fundamentalsts areagainst pedophilia. However, i mentioned only them, because they are the majority of haters who hate minor-attracted people. As i said earlier, religion, and the belief of children being devine energies sent by god, is the main source of hate against minor-attracted people. Why is that? Because if you believe that children are innocent, devine energy, and you believe that sex is dirty, evil sin that only Satan loves, then it’s logical to think that pedophilia is something that must be destroyed, and all pedophiles killed, as religious people (fundamentalists) say on social media. When i check anti-pedophilia comments, the majority of these comments is coming from religious people. This is why i think that the main source of hate against MAPS, is religious fundamentalism. However, i know there are non-religious people who hate MAPS, but the number of these people, and the amount of their activity, is much smaller than the activity of religious fundamentalists.
LOL at the term sex-fascism
When i use the term “sex-fascism”, i mean ideologies or laws that restrict or stigmatize sexual activity. By “sex-fascism”, i mean sex-negativism. In my opinion, SOR (Sex Offender registry) is very fascist thing. The ideology behind the SOR, is all about stigmatization, marginalization, and demonization. The SOR leads to violations of human rights, while provide no safety. The SOR is based on bad science. The SOR is inconsistent with all evidence. The SOR is defended against all evidence. All human rights organization have the same statements about teh SOR - they all agree on the idea that the registry should be abolished, because it doesnt work, and violate human rights. Laws against sex work can be considered fascist too.
"they want all anti-MAPs silenced"
I don’t want all anti-maps silenced. I want harmful ideologies to be silenced. If your claims contribute to violation of human rights, you should be silenced/censored. Targeted harassment should be censored. When your voice is calling for harm, then your voice should be silenced.
If you are hater who wants to hate MAPS, that’s fine, but don’t make other people to hate MAPS. I already explained that MAPS are normal humans like everyone else.
You are free to hate MAPS. But you should not use lies and myths to make MAPS to look like monsters, so you can make other pople to hate MAPS. Im against the lies the anti-MAPS spread.
"these child predators manchildren are beyond entitled if they think they are the only people who should be allowed to speak"
No, i don’t believe that. I believe everyone should be allowed to speak, if they don’t use lies and myths to stigmatize innocent people, and to direct hate towards people.
"these people are dangerous lunatics who want free speech only for pedophiles"
Free speech doesnt mean that you can use lies and myths to demonize people, and to direct hate towards people. If you want to express your opinion, express it. But dont use lies and un-true claims to make someone to look like monster. Don’t call all pedophiles, rapists, because this myth is debunked. This is a myth i will give as an example of putting everyone under the same label. No, it is not true pedophiles are rapists. All statistics say otherwise. The majority of rape against children are performed not by your stereotypical “pedophile”.
Also, i explained that raping children doesnt make you a pedophile. Pedophilia has strict definition. If you are a 50 years old, for example, and you are a 15 years old, this doesnt make you a pedophile, because pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescent individuals. Even if you rape prepubescent person, you still wont be classified as a pedophile, if you DON’T meet the criteria of pedophilia.
Don’t change the meaning of the words, because it’s meaningless. In the scientific community, words have strict meaning. When a study is performed, all words are with strict definition, AND NEVER LOOSELY USED! If you use words loosely, this will lead to chaos in the understanding of the situation.
Prostasia is either a troll organization or its supporters have gone off the rails
None of this is true.
there is 99% chance this dude’s computer is full of CP because in all his other posts he says there is no problem with minors producing CP
The concept of “CSEM” is very loosely used concept, so i cant give good answer to this, since i dont know what they mean by “CP”.
However, i will say that i personally think that charging minors for such things is pointless and bad. It’s bad, because it can put them on the SOR. Being put on the SOR for something like this, is a sign of non-mature justice system that works towards destruction, but never towards real justice.
The SOR can ruin your life, no matter how old you are. Yes, minors can be registered on the SOR too, which will harm them a lot.
Here are some articles about that. READ IT CAREFULLY!!!
I cant give you all link from the internet, obviously. If you need more information about the SOR, find it by yourself by using search engine.
they want the sex registry abolished
Yes, i want the sex registry abolished. I have made deep research, so i already know it should be abolished. I know the SOR is based on fear, emotions, and stereotypes, but never the truth. The SOR doesnt help, it just violates human rights.
Watch this debate for more information: Should We Abolish the Sex Offender Registry? A Debate. - YouTube
these people are shameless in their support of child rapist
I NEVER SAID I SUPPORT CHILD RAPISTS! If you believe i said i support child rapist, show me the evidence that proves i support such things. You can’t show any evidence, because i never said i support child abuse. I will repeat it again: I DONT SUPPORT CHILD ABUSE!
they believe adults who pray on children are innocnt victims
I already said that i dont support child rapists.
Prostasia is making no attemp to hide the fact they support removing safeguards that support children
This myth about Prostasia is not new. I have seen it on social media many times. The truth, is that there is no evidence Prostasia is trying to remove safeguards for children.
Prostasia is against bills such as SISEA, SESTA-FOSTA, EARN IT, NOT BECAUSE THESE BILLS PROTECT CHLDREN, but because these bills DON’T protect anyone, but remove privacy. Prostasia supports evidence-based laws, not laws based on emotions, fears, and conclusions made by misunderstanding of the situation.
And twitter has not consistent in its job to take down CP either
And they showed link to the NYT’s article that was ordered by NCOSE (Morality in Media). The story is false, the lawsuit is false too. I know it, because i already proved that NCOSE (Morality in Media) is paying NYT to publish false stories about rapists that dont exist. NCOSE (Morality in Media) paid NYT to publish the false stories of rape that were used by Exodus Cry to try to ban porn. If you dont believe me, you can ask @terminus because he has web-page on KeyBase. Also, i have more evidence against all anti-porn organizatons, and i can prove they all have religious roots. Exodus Cry (International House of Prayer), FTND (Mormon Church), NCOSE (Morality in Media), and “Till Christ Returns”, are all religious. I have proofs they are connected to each other, and they sell product and send money to each other.
ALSO, “NEW YORK POST” HAS NO GOOD CHECKERS TO DETERMINE IF THE SOTRY IS FALSE OR NOT. THIS IS WHY ALL ANTI-PORN ADVOCATES USE THIS MEDIA.
The current anti-porn crusade is performed exactly by them, and other smaller, less-famous organizations. They use made-up stories to push their plans. This is proven.
No, it’s not true that Twitter refused to remove CP. Twitter has strict rules against CP, so they will remove any CP when reported.
The claim that Twitter refused to remove CP, so they can “earn money” is invalid.
they also want child sex dolls legalized, despite the only people who would be interested in those being people who fantasize about child rape
There is no evidence that child sex dolls can lead to harm. Child sex dolls can be used by childlovers, in order these childlovers to not think about real children. This is the purpose of the child sex dolls. If you have real evidence to prove child sex dolls are harmful, please, feel free to present it.
Prostasia wants evidence-based laws. If you show evidence that child sex dolls are harmful, Prostasia will no longer support child sex dolls.
You have to understand that to protect people, we need evidence-based laws, not laws based on fears, emotions, and non-rational thinking.
"prostasia believes nonces are born that way, even if this is true, they are still dangerous people"
This is not true. This is what you believe. This is what you say. Your claims are NOT supported by any study. Your claims are based on myths. All these myths are debunked. Saying “these people are dangerous” will stigmatize them, so they wont be able to find help if they need.
This is why im against stigma. Stigmatization leads to marginalizations. Marginalizations and isolation from society can contribute to even more harm. It’s proven that when “these dangerous, disgusting pedophiles, child rapists”, as you call them, are more likely to “rape” someone, if they can’t find help and support.
Also, being marginalized leads to bad mental health not only in MAPS, but in every person.
MAPs cannot form romantic relationship even if they are interested in children so they think they are oppressed victims. they want dolls to act out on their disgusting rape fantasies on
Yes, MAPs are oppressed victims. MAPs are stigmatized and marginalized for no logical reason. If you say you are MAP, you will lose friends, job, and no one will want to be friend with you, EVEN IF YOU DON’T HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN.. This mean that MAPs are oppressed for no reason.
they are broken, deluded people
They are NOT broken. They are completely normal people. I know them, i have studied them, and i know better than anyone else on social media who talks about MAPs by using insults, threats and emotions-based thinking that is completely inconsistent with the reality.
"fascist measures against sex". So, according to them, you are a sex-fascist if you do not support the sexualization of children
First of all, there is no such thing as “sexualization of children”. It doesn’t exist. Sex-fascism is when you make sex-restricting laws, such as the SISEA bill, or when you unleash extreme amount of hate to someone who had sexual act that doesnt fit with you traditional thinking or ideology. Restrictions on sex work can also be considered as sex-fascism for obvious reasons. For example, the SOR (Sex Offender Registry) is proven to be a fascist thing. If you have read the articles i showed, you will know what i mean.
Which is why they have to go to therapy, no matter whether they want/like it or not.
I didnt understand this. Who have to go on therapy? People who are registered on the SOR? If this is what you wanted to say, know that there are already bills to eliminated the mondatory therapy for registered people on the SOR.
they also twisted "anti-child grooming to mean “anti-human”"
This is not true. I didnt say that anti-child grooming means anti-human. I said that the current laws against what you call “child-grooming”, are harming, but not helping. The current laws are based on system that is not fit with the 21st century anymore. The current system is based on myths, not on objective truth. To protect people, the government need to adopt evidence-based laws that will protect everyone. The current laws are against human rights, and lead to stigma and marginalization.
"I don’t have empathy for bad people". "And yet they have empathy for people who are child rapists"
This is not true. I didnt say i have empathy for child rapists. I said i DON’T have empathy for people who use myths and lies to harm other people.
"the Prostasia admin also said one of their writter who got convicted for possession of real CP “just a mistake”. That’s not called making a mistake. that’s called being a monster.
This is another example of exaggerated claim. No, the person was not a monster, but a human being, like all other humans, born from other humans. Stop trying to make everyone to look like monster.
Yes, it is called a mistake. It was a mistake, because it can be fixed. The person probably learned the lession, and now he/she no longer have what you call “CP”.
Prostasia really wants that kind of disgusting behaviour to be thought of as normal or no big deal
What Prostasia actually wants, is evidence-based laws that dont stigmatize and marginalize people, but protect everyone. This is called harm-reduction.
All Prostasia does is empathize with predators and get upsed when pedophiles are called weirdos
Prostasia wants evidence-based laws that dont lead to harm like the laws that are based on fearm and emotion. Protecting the human rights of MAPs is important to achieve such laws. If we want to reduce harm, then we need to protect everyone.
this user wants old CP legalized
This sentence is about @LoliShadow
LoliShadow didn’t say he wants CP legalized. He didnt say it. You took his words out of context.
MAPs are unhinged clown who think they have a right to sexualize real children and victimize them by possessing real CP
Explain how exactly can old CP (e.g. 5 years old) victimize someone today, 5 years later. I didnt understand you. As far as i remember, LoliShadow’s tweet was about “old CP”?
No, MAPs are not clowns. If you dont want them to “harm” real children, then allow them to use child sex dolls. But you are obviously against child sex dolls too. Okay, okay… what do to now? What are the options for MAPs, so they can prevent themselves from doing sex with children? If you dont want them to do sex with children, then allow them to use child sex dolls, so they can replace the real love with plastic love, which doesnt exist, but dolls can still make some kind of illusion of love. So, yes, these dolls can DECREASE the child abuse. This is why Prostasia want to legalize them. Prostasia’s goal is to reduce child abuse by using evidence-based laws. The evidence in this case, suggests that child sex dolls can help in reducting the abuse against children.
There were 2 more quotes about “far-right evangelicals”, but im not going to mention them, because i already debunked them earlier.
Dont listen to such people. They are against everything Prostasia does. They want to ruin the reputation of Prostasia, by lying about what Prostasia actually does. Prostasia is AGAINST abuse, and wants to reduce abuse by using evidene-based laws.