A state branch of the second largest political party in Germany (according to current polls) is threatening to sue those who advocate for the legalization of CLSD and the use of fictional pornography. They say it is “encouragment of committing crimes”. Even tho posession etc. is legal, but this is perhaps not known to them. So the likelyhood of drawings being criminalized is also possible.
They also requested the ban of websites that fight against the stigma as that is “normalizing pedophilia”. This has been requested indirectly by asking the state where the website is hosted from. A parliamentary request for answers. The questions include the usage of dolls and drawings/stories.
Amazing to witness such an insane attempt at silencing opinions. People are not even allowed to fight back. By that logic anything illegal has to stay illegal for all eternity.
They are also using pedophilia as a way to campaign for the upcoming elections in february.
“Pedophiles desire acceptance? We say: no normalization of pedophilia, ever!”
The motherfucking AfD. Disgusting fucking neo-Nazis.
“Omg you can’t just call everybody on the right-wing a Nazi !”
Bitch, read their fucking policies. They’re a far-right extremist party, the furthest right Germany has seen since the 1920s/30s (and we all remember how that turned out, right)? AfD even won in the exact same state that Hitler did, in Thuringia.
I will remind y’all that the “pink triangle” wasn’t just used to identify gay men and trans women, but also for pedophiles and zoophiles:
Later, the use of a pink triangle was established for prisoners identified as homosexual men and transgender women. (Lesbian and bisexual women and trans men were not systematically imprisoned; some were classified as “asocial”, wearing a black triangle.)[7][8] The pink triangle was also assigned to others considered sexual deviants, including zoophiles and pedophiles[3] in addition to sex offenders.
I’ve already brought this trivia up twice before:
I reiterate: note how the Wikipedia article makes a distinction between paraphiles and offenders, meaning the Nazis mass murdered non-offending pedos and zoos. We NOMAPs are the very demographic of people that the Nazis would see experimented on and/or gassed to death. Fuck the AfD.
I am too tired of that crap, man. It has been proved over and over that lolicon and fictional content DOESN’T increase the child abuse rate. If even actual content with children getting sexually assaulted doesn’t increase the child abuse rates, then fictional content sure won’t.
I read the newest print of a legal newsletter and someone was apparently sentenced to 6 months in prison for possessing 225 texts describing sex with children and teens.
He appealed and lost again, but he was persistent so he appealed again and won since that is not illegal. Sometimes I wonder you know. How is it possible that people who are mere amateurs in the rule of law know better than sitting judges? Or police officers? Or prosecutors? TWO FUCKING COURTS.
How can so many instances fail in sticking to the law? There is so much literature available stating it is not illegal. I sometimes believe that there are many out there who - blinded by hatred - try to get those “pedophiles” behind bars no matter what.
“Officer/Your Honor, please understand that this fictional cartoon absolutely does NOT depict a Kindergartener riding the erect ***** of a sleeping adult male while another Kindergartener watches. See, the girls aren’t children at all, they have dwarfism! See, it’s all just some wholesome ageplay/sizeplay. Hm? Oh, and he’s not actually asleep, he’s only pretending! Sleep play, I guess you’d call it? And the pink haired girl isn’t spying on them (even if that’s literally the name of the original show) without their consent, it’s part of the fetish! So you see, nothing illegal going on here! No children being molested or people being taken advantage of in their sleep or creeps peeping on others having sex! Nothing criminal in the slightest!”
Or, y’know, it’s a Goddamn cartoon and the law needs to chill the fuck out and not require something as fucking stupid as an “all characters 18” label for characters who don’t even fucking exist . “Ceci n’est pas une pipe”
Sorry for the rant. But not being funny, why was Shany even being downvoted at first? Like, nobody here actually thinks any loli artist labeling their works as “characters are 18+” is actually being serious, right? It’s all sarcasm and covering of asses.
This is honestly a very good take and honestly it fully describes how I feel regarding it. Like, it’s not possible that none of them didn’t realize that this was not illegal. Same for people who try the very best they can to ban and arrest lolicon. They are just so hyperfocused on getting them arrested that they let the rational part fades away. They don’t even analize things anymore.
As said by you: It’s not possible to completely remove lolicon without removing freedom of speech. The amount of time and resources there would be just for a drawing is stupid. The government fails to arrest actual CSAM producers and think that they somehow they can go after fictional child porn producers. Fiction is everywhere, whether the pedophile draws little kids on a paper, uses AI or write them, it’s impossible to arrest them. Specially since they can easily just save that and guard to themselves.
Also, funny how no one seems to mention that if lolicon is illegal then people into it (Pedophile or not) will go to deep or even dark web, in which they can actually see and watch child p*rn eventually since lolicon content will most likely be on a lot of child porn sites. There will be even an actual category for that. People who believe in bans are actually making it easier for pedophiles or people with just lolicon fetishes (being a lolicon, does not mean, necessarily, that you are a pedophile) to actually go into CSAM sites.
It’s not just the vile hatred of pedophiles, it’s that no one will stand up to these ridiculous laws when it comes to fiction related to children, whether lolicon or dolls, for fear of being labelled and persecuted as one of “them”. It’s low hanging fruit for people to act out their moral outrage without fear of anyone standing up and defending themselves. Or defending against the ludicrous violations of of personal freedoms with some intangible idea that these fantasy outlets somehow encourage harm against children.
If that were so, then once banned and outlawed, child abuse should decrease, if not completely stop, no? Yet it doesn’t change the numbers at all. The moral outrage blinds the religious zealot into believing their “doing something” to prevent children from being harmed. If that were the case, we’d never hear of a priest or pastor ever being involved in any abuse.
These good Christian folk who salivate and celebrate with glee about the idea of torturing and killing a pedophile are barking up the wrong trees. They need to look around them and see who the real predators are. Hiding amongst them. Priests and politicians. Family and so called friends. Wolves in sheep’s clothing. Not the pedophile keeping to themselves, not wanting to ever harm a child because they cherish and adore them in that stage of life. Minding their own business fulfilling their desires with fiction and fantasy.
All you have to do is look at Japan. Literally one of the safest countries for children despite there being an entire industry around fictional content and dolls. Human psychology is not that different that people in Japan are immune to these arguments. They should apply as well, so why don’t we hear about daily rapes? Every sex crime is under-reported in every nation, but the difference between Japan is just insane given their industry.
Hell, even China allows those dolls which makes them superior in this particular case. There is even a regular convention co-financed by the ministry of health and those dolls are featured, too. How can you be worse off than China when it comes to this?
If America ever somehow gains universal healthcare, and if pedophilic disorder is still considered a thing by then, I shall demand such a doll as part of my treatment. And if anybody objects, they can kick rocks.
Oh hey, Elon Musk has supported AfD in the past. AfD are Nazis. Oh, look what Musk did the other day at Trump’s inauguration. Hm. Y’know, I don’t trust the new administration to respect our rights and keep they hands off our dolls . Among other rights of ours…
Good thing is that a new party formed with a more liberal leftist approach while also having elements of why people vote AfD. A lot of people vote them out of protest, or because of immigration.
That new party just obliterated the leading AfD politician in a TV-debate and they currently stand at around 7% of which most being old AfD votes. So yeah, they are being slowly cannibalized.
Almost like saying publicly that “Hitler was a leftist, socalist” is a bad look especially when you cannot answer basic questions and result to insulting your opponent with shouting, because they got applauded by the viewers.
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