Ok then here’s a question why get rid of all the 2d and 2.5d stuff.
Last I checked cartoons don’t have victims. And don’t you dare bring up the whole “children might end up watching” no they shouldn’t be there to begin with. I agree we should have better regulation, but why did they just nuke the site? Esspecially when they started to only accept crypto currency anyway?
Pornhub made a weak foundation. If they had good foundation this wouldn’t have needed to happen. Blame pornhub for this.
I’m a little tired to write a huge text today, so I won’t do XD. But it looks like you’re somehow insisting that someone here wants to mix pornography with children in some way. I hope I’m wrong, because it is OBVIOUS that this is not the case and that this is a stupid idea.
Also, it looks like you are comparing pornography with alcohol and nicotine, and Ok, although I know that not everyone here will agree with me, I would say that you are correct in that respect. I think pornography harms people in some ways. But like alcohol and nicotine, it’s a personal decision whether someone wants to use it or not. And in general, even if it’s bad, it’s bad only for those who are consuming, so you don’t have the right to ban it.
But it looks like you’re somehow insisting that someone here wants to mix pornography with children in some way.
Someone insisted that porn does not harm children and that made me very pissed off when it does. This is why we keep children from even watching porn!
Also, it looks like you are comparing pornography with alcohol and nicotine, and Ok, although I know that not everyone here will agree with me, I would say that you are correct in that respect. I think pornography harms people in some ways. But like alcohol and nicotine, it’s a personal decision whether someone wants to use it or not. And in general, even if it’s bad, it’s bad only for those who are consuming, so you don’t have the right to ban it.
I never said I wanted to ban all porn how many times do I have to say this! No one wants to ban all porn. We want to ban age play and other deviant forms of porn like Michael Seto! The ban on child porn is essential but not enough! More needs to be banned.
You are right porn is like a drug. There is no withdrawal but it is very addictive. They have their choice to use porn but I have my right to criticize their habits. Freedom goes both ways. There is no evidence porn is beneficial but carries so much risk.
Want to age play and deviant porn to be legal? Prove it reduces harm.
Child porn involving minors must always stay banned period end of story!
So guilty until proven innocent?
I really trying to understand you point here. Like, why the fact that something can hurt children implies that it has to be banned for everyone? Like, fire can also hurt children, but it’s not forbidden :/. You just shouldn’t allow children to have contact with fire, same with pornography.
Oh, ok, sorry for that, I didn’t read everything in this thread. But that doenst change anything dude. Why do you think that fake children porn harms children? 
Like, OK, I confess that there are reasons that make us BELIEVE that this is true. BUT, there are also reasons that make us BELIEVE that this is NOT true. Anyway, it is a war of guesswork, and in my view, until proven wrong, it should not be banned. After all the burden of proof must always fall on the accuser. Like, imagine if everything we didn’t know if is bad or not needed to be banned first, and only after it’s proven “not bad” it would be “unbanned”
Of course, you are talking with imbeciles who, if they had their way, everything not explicitly approved in the Bible would be banned as “products of the devil”.
“I don’t want to ban all porn, but I want to barn more porn”. The problem is that you want to ban porn on an arbitrary standard based not in any research but in a blind false belief in “normalization” that you can’t even define. Pornographic materials that hurt people are already banned.
No, it’s not like a drug, and I provided you with references that showed that at a neurological level, watching pornography has a completely different pathway than using drugs. Withdrawal is not the only difference between your “porn addiction” and actual clinical addiction.
If you want to solve porn addiction, the trick is simple. Reduce your sexual frustration with masturbation, but without pornography. The materials about “porn addiction” tell people to completely avoid masturbating all together, which naturally makes them more sexually frustrated and less able to resist sexual temptations.
There has been no strong evidence of porn addiction being a real addiction, DSM-5 excluded porn addiction as a legitimate disorder, and behavioural addictions, in general, are considered as pseudoscience used to scam people to purchase scammy self-help books from various fake gurus.
There is a lot of positives from watching pornography, albeit they come from masturbation. Reducing the risk of prostate cancer in men, they also allow disrupting the periods of anhedonia in people with depression and help to reduce stress levels significantly, to name the few.
It also helps people to reduce the levels of sexual frustration, making them think more rationally and not make stupid mistakes like dating someone that isn’t good for them.
People who believe in porn addiction tend to separate sexuality as this mystical unknown thing, making them apply a special value to it, that makes the regular things feel special if they are in any way mixed with sexuality.
Most people spend more time watching regular movies on Netflix or TV daily, than on porn, yet you don’t see people screaming, that we have an epidemy of TV series addicts.
So why is porn addiction treated as something that is real while movie addiction isn’t? Both activities bring pleasure, but only a single one of them has an ideological opposition that denies science in a blind belief that every evil of this world can be boiled down to a single variable because the idea of eliminating only a single thing is much more comforting for a lazy person than a realization, that the problem is caused by a chaotic set of millions of variables that will require continues work to combat.
I don’t think it’s nice for you to call Michael Seto a deviant form of porn. I don’t think there is anything deviant about him.
No one denies it. But you have a weird compulsive need to constantly signalize this virtue. Which looks almost like you don’t really believe it, and you try to reaffirm yourself in this belief by repeating your slogans since you don’t really know why it should stay banned.
Also, if you Like Michael Seto so much, I think that must mean you agree, that pedophilia is a sexual orientation.
“He has argued forcefully for pedophilia to be thought of as a sexual orientation — an idea he acknowledges is controversial, but hopes will actually help prevent child abuse.”
That mandatory reporting laws make it incredibly risky for pedophiles to tell therapists about their desires, and should be eliminated because they can be misunderstood by the therapists and prevent pedophiles from seeking help.
“Pedophiles will remain hidden if they continue to be hated and feared, which would impede efforts to better understand this sexual orientation and thereby prevent child sexual exploitation,”
That public sex offender list that he Canadian government announced, is misguided:
" The Harper government recently announced tougher measures against child predators, including a public sex offender registry. Seto says this is misguided,"
And that child sex offenders should be reintegrated into the society:
“One of the worries would be that would further drive individuals underground,” he says. “It could also lead to problems that decrease the likelihood they can successfully be integrated.”
I wonder what the 4 of your facebook friend on this group will think about you. Especially considering you make an argument from authority to confirm your beliefs that are contradictory to that of the authority you used.
It is certainly more trouble than anyone bargains for. I’ll give you that much. And if you’re dating someone, you’re going to be in it for the long haul, so it isn’t very advantageous to go for someone who is more trouble. It’s technically legal, but it is a bit pointless.
It isn’t the end of the world, if everyone decides it’s a decent age, but lower AoCs are hardly anything to write home about. Any porn is going to start at 18, so you can’t squeak in someone who looks really young by some loophole.
It’s up to the legislature to decide where to set the line, and society to postulate on how to minimize possible harms here. It looks like an arbitrary number, but a lot of thought goes into it.
It’s impossible to know how much non-consensual pornography there is on Pornhub. SISEA may be okay. But, they will have to clarify that it only applies to provably real people, and websites predominantly dedicated to porn.
I was more hostile about the law previously, but I feel a small compromise could help to clamp down on non-consensual pornography popping up over and over on extraordinarily popular porn sites. And it would clamp down on CP too.
No one takes non-consensual pornography seriously at all. IIt’s absurd to try to ban porn, but closing our eyes to the problem is not the solution, especially for the other big porn site (I won’t name it as their moderation practices are said to be utterly abhorrent), which the New York Times, and Vice briefly covered.
In the future, we might be able to replace all pornography with pornography generated purely by computers. We wouldn’t have to worry about distributors spreading content which they no longer have consent for, or which they never had consent for. Nor would there be any need for women to be coerced into performing sex acts they’re not comfortable with doing. Hentai is making some inroads here already.
There are many who would criticize this sort of relationship.
To be fair, I’d say most people under 30 are mentally undeveloped. 