Twitter DIDN'T refuse to remove "child porn"

This is fake news: Twitter refused to remove child porn because it didn’t ‘violate policies’

New York Post was used by Exodus Cry to spread false stories. Now New York Post is used by NCOSE, another anti-porn group, to spread false stories.

They use false stories to push their emotions-based fear-mongering narratives.

NCOSE (Morality in Media) published statement in the same day when this article came, which proves this is another pre-planned attack. It is not possible to organize everything in less than 9 hours.

Here is link: https://endsexualexploitation.org/articles/ncose-law-center-hits-twitter-with-groundbreaking-sex-trafficking-lawsuit/

Twitter was included in their Dirty-Dozen-List campaign a few days ago. The DirtyDozenList campaign is targeting the whole interten. Yes, the WHOLE internet.
If someone need proofs against previous stories about rape of “14 years old girls”, just ask. We have informative videos and sites debunking everything.

The DirtyDozenList campaign will use false stories, anonymous false victims, anonymous claims, anonymous testimonies, texts taken out of context, anonymous false witnesses, etc… They will do the same thing Exodus Cry did, because NCOSE and Exodus Cry have the same interests - using false stories to push anti-porn/anti-nudity narratives.

The baseless evidence-free lawsuit against Twitter, will result in another bill that is similar to the SISEA bill.

Don’t believe misinformation. Spread the truth among friends. The more people know, the less people will suffer.

There are hundreds of people on Twitter, sharing the same photo of text taken out of context. LOL.

Well, they are a party to the lawsuit and that’s on the public record. We are analyzing this case now to determine what we think about its chances of success. Unfortunately, we weren’t kidding about FOSTA being a dangerous law. This lawsuit goes wildly too far and will endanger speech online. Look at this paragraph of the complaint and see how they are conflating CSAM with discussion of child sexual abuse:

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The lawsuit isn’t fake news, but it’s definitely bad news. Twitter has made some poor decisions and deserves some pain, but it’s more important that NCOSE be defeated… and that FOSTA be repealed.

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The lawsuit is literally here: https://www.scribd.com/document/491614044/Doe-v-Twitter

This is extremely unfortunate, and my heart goes out to the victims in this horrible debacle.

However, I still think this should be dealt with extremely carefully and delicately. If there is truth to these heinous allegations on Twitter’s failure to properly inspect and follow thru with their commitment and legal obligation to clamping down on CSAM, any intervention made by civil rights groups should be carefully planned out and executed with caution.

I don’t like the way the lawsuit alleges what is akin to fostering ‘culture creep’. I think Twitter would be wise to consider settling out-of-court with the plaintiffs. I don’t want to see this unfortunate turn of events be spun out of control to justify legislation that would impinge on the free speech and expression rights of Internet users and platforms.

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Just because there is lawsuit, doesnt mean it’s true. Evryone is free to make any kinds of lawsuits. I can show lawsuits of “40 Jane Doe” individuals who claim baseless claims against PornHub, but zero evidence they can show.

I don’t believe anything coming from anti-porn organizations. This lawsuit is coming from NCOSE, they have agenda, so i dont believe them. They used false stories against pornhub too. All their stories are debunked, and i have proofs. We killed their traffickinghub campaign, so they started the DirtyDozenList campaign.

The lawsuit says that Twitter refusted to remove CP. How is this possible, when Twitter has strict rules against CP?

The claim Twitter is “a safe haven” for minor attracted people who are human traffickers, is exposing the whole agenda. These claims about MAPS, are false.

@Michael45

I think you need to settle down. It’s great that you’re passionate about these issues, but please hold off before making false accusations or presumptions. It’s not unheard-of for social media companies to get into controversies such as this, or to make mistakes with this kind of stuff.
These are scathing allegations against Twitter and their stocks are certainly plummeting, right now I’m doing research on how civil liberties groups could rebut any claims by lawmakers to introduce/reintroduce legislation, such as the EARN-IT Act. Something like this is exactly what they need to bolster support and silence the rebuttals of civil liberties and free speech organizations.

The issue with the Amazon sex doll story in Sept. of 2020 was one of great contention that required a lot of thought, investigation, and research before going forward with my claims of foul play.

We are all VERY familiar with who NCOSE (Morality in Media) are. They’re not anybody’s friends. They’re a right-wing Evangelical Christian hate group trying to ride the coat tails off the state-sanctioned NCMEC and re-brand so they can impose their sick, twisted, and un-American agenda on us. I have zero doubt in my mind they’re more interested in scoring brownie points from both the public and the media to bolster their cause, rather than actually helping these teens, otherwise they’d settle out-of-court.
But we don’t have evidence to make these claims at this time.
My faith right now is being put in those of organizations such as the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation), NCAC (Nat. Coalition Against Censorship), the Prostasia Foundation (@terminus), and other organizations to do damage control and, as I’ve stated before, rebut calls or claims by emotionally-charged lawmakers to revive the EARN-IT Act.
Something like this makes it extremely hard for civil rights, freedom of speech, and privacy advocates to convincingly make the claim to conservatives and prudes that the web does not need regulation. I have a lot of animosity towards Twitter for their failure, and if the internet does manage to recover without the threat of further regulation, then we can rest assured that something like this will never happen again.

Bottom line is, please (and I mean PLEASE) settle down. We can’t go about accusing or suspecting foul play willy-nilly. I could certainly buy that Twitter may have screwed up when evaluating reports of the content in question.

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Are they against Section-230? Do you think that removing Section-230 is in favor with the democrats? Would the democrats want Section 230 to be removed? Recently i heard someone i trying to remove section 230, and im trying to understand what is happening. Do you have any information who is behind the push against section 230?

I need to know who is behind the push against Section 230. In my view, the right-wing are in support of removing section 230, while leftists are against removing section 230. What do you think?

Section 230 is literally a “hands-off” immunity provision. Congress as a whole didn’t like it when it was passed, but that was due to the fact that it was seen as necessary to allow the Internet to flourish.
The Democrats seem to be more tolerant of it than the GOP. Several Republicans drafted legislation aimed at either weakening or repealing it outright.

Section 230 immunity provisions already hold Twitter liable for failing to remove CP.
I’m hoping they settle out-of-court but I know MIM is going to resist or flat-out deny it so they can ride this out to trial and bolster publicity for their cause.
They’re taking pages right out of disgraced and disbarred attorney Jack Thompson’s playbook by exploiting the plights and torts of others to feed into their own agendas.
Absolute slimeballs.

(For those who don’t know who I’m talking about, Jack Thompson was a lawyer who tried to sue publishers, developers, and retailers of violent, M-rated video games because he wanted to censor them.
He would sniff out and exploit the parents of kids and teenagers with violent tendencies who played violent video games and later went on to commit heinous criminal acts and represent them in court so he could have standing. He was disbarred by the Florida bar for his frivolous and unethical conduct.)

If this section is removed, this will make all kinds of pornography/nudity impossible, because social media platforms will ban nudity, instead of hiring more staff that will moderate the platforms. Did i get it correctly?

Michael45 isn’t even serious.

Basically, Michael45 is a troll role-playing as a stereotypical child predator who uses ridiculous terms like “sex-fascist” and says that CSEM is not actually exploitation, because minors can consent. They’re deliberately saying outrageous stuff here to bait others into taking screenshots of the posts and then sharing those screenshots on Discord and Twitter to paint Prostasia forum users as child r-pists. Their posts about how all conservatives need to be banned/silenced are also merely troll posts; their purpose is to trick people into thinking that MAPs want to silence and de-platform anyone who isn’t a MAP themselves.

Michael45 may also be sharing screenshots of their own posts just to say “Look at how Prostasia supports crazy conservative-hating child predators!”

I did reply to their previous posts, but I was mostly just playing along to create a show. Unfortunately, I got bored, so I might as well say that yes, as others already suspected, Michael45 is just playing around and role-playing as different characters–on multiple sites, not just this one–to create disarray.

They were also trying to show how gullible MAPs and Prostasia users are, but that didn’t work too well considering another user here immediately knew their posts were a ruse.

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This is a lie. I neved sad that exploitation doesn’t exist. What i said is that th term “CSEM” is misused by superstitious primitives who want to push narratives based on fear and emoetions.

For example, if a person under the age of 18, say 17, uploads nude of himself/herself by his/her own will, they will say this is exploitation, when it’s obvious it wasn’t exploitation. They push streotypical narratives about pedophiles on social media, so they can discredit certain social platforms or to pressure them to adopt extreme restrictions, or even to ban all kind of nudity.

This is what i said.

Some of them: CollectiveShout, Exodus Cry, NCOSE, NCMEC, Project Blitz, FTND, etc… most f them, if not all, are religious. These are just a few. You should check the “DirtyDozenList”, because this new campaign is targeting the whole internet.

So now you’re saying that CP is totally fine as long as it’s created by the minors themselves. LOL.

Im trying to find where is the exploitation in these actions. Why is it considered EXPLOITATION, if it’s CONSENSUAL.

If minors dont view it as exploitation, and do it for fun WITH OTHER MINORS AROUNG THE SAME AGE, but the law views it as exploitation and something bad, the law will ruin their lives by registering them on the registry.

Minors can’t consent. Also, an adult could keep all the CP they received when they were a minor. So yes, it’s still exploitation if it leads to adults possessing sexual material of minors.

Can minors consent with other minors aroung the same age, say 2-3 years of age difference - yes or no?

Why does that even matter to you if you’re an adult? The only reason you’d still care about that is if you’re a child predator and want it to be easier for you to exploit kids.

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Im not child predator. Im arguing with him, so im trying to understand how he thinks.

The original title of this post says that Twitter “didn’t” refuse to remove the material that is the subject of the lawsuit.

But the complaint seems to show that the complainant submitted his driver’s license to show that he was depicted in the material and was a minor, and yet the complaint didn’t lead to the material being removed.

So Twitter did f___ up, apparently, no matter what else is going on. But of course, we now need to know what their defence will say.

Hello. Do you think Twitter really refused to remove CP? If TWitter has very strict rules against CP, and hosting CP is illegal, then how is it possible for Twitter to refise to remove CP? Why would these who work at Twitter risk their freedom? Why would they risk to be jailed?

Also, NEw York Post isn’t checking the articles good. I know some anti-porn organizations used New York Post to post false stories that were NOT proven, and later debunked. Even when debunked, the stories are still on New York Post.