Twitter loli artist ban wave

I don’t know. I don’t know enough about it.

Personally I’m just going to assume “Maybe.”

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If so, then its existence is of no value. If that’s the case, then they’re worse than Twitter by not shutting up that they are better. But again, I say this tentatively waiting for confirmation one way or another.

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That is the problem with centralized social media that is in the hand of one (profit-oriented) organization. In the end there are just a handful of people deciding what is acceptable and what is not, often by completely arbitrary standards.

I’ve never heard of Tribel before, but I assume they fall into that category as well.

Even if they are tolerant today, there is no guarantee that they will not change their mind in the future and marginalize stigmatized minorities by excluding them from the public discourse like Twitter did. After all, that is exactly what happened with Twitter, which used to be a fairly tolerant and even somewhat safe space for MAPs all over the world. Reddit and tumblr would be two more examples.

That’s why I believe the way to go is decentralized networks like Mastodon, where there is no single instance that can decide who is and who isn’t worthy of having their voice heard.

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There’s a story going around involving Elon Musk. Some people are suggesting that he has a “secret alt account” on Twitter. No one really knows if it actually belongs to Musk, but it’s still kinda weird either way.

People saw that profile pic of a little child next to Musk’s pfp and found it belonged to this one:

That’s apparently supposed to be Musk’s nearly three-year-old son.

Some more Tweets made by the account:

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Again, no one knows if the account belongs to Musk or not. But, if it does, it would be really weird for a 51-year-old man to be doing this.

Not only that, but he apparently has another account:

What a weird world we live in!

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Just pix


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Looks like the Lolicon Defense Task Force were suspended.

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Might be interesting to see how this goes.

I imagine this might mean sites that don’t ban will see an increase of traffic.

I think it’s a big mistake to send folks to the dark web to find the material that the creation of is no more harmful than drawing a circle.

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Pixiv continues to shoot itself in the foot.

Looks like dlsite are doing the same as well.

All because “they’re made too fast.”

I guess those who’re appluading AI art being banned on Fanbox won’t have the same tune when the payment overlords demand pixiv ban certain things… again.

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Even a broken clock is right twice a day. One of Elon’s new features actually gets things right:

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The german state-owned media Channel “ARD/ZDF” just put out a new video about Twitter. One of the points were that Twitter refuses to delete “Child Sexual Abuse Material” and they showed a citation from a lawyer who stated:

Twitter now refuses to delete CSAM: 9 reports; 0% taken down. Also, the actual age of the depicted person, or animated person does not matter. Only the context and suggested role [the appearance alone is enough, but ok].

In the show they only read up until the 0%, so they can make it seem like that it refers to actual CSAM. Nobody knows what got reported here, but the fact that this was mentioned leads me to believe it was not actual CSAM.

The show and lawyer then co-operated and sent a letter to the Federal Justice Departement saying:

We have filed 9 posts containing child or youth pornography, but Twitter refused to delete any of them. We believe that they are at the very least youth pornography, recognizable by either context, or description [They then linked all the posts].

It ended with a song to the Federal Ministre of Justice saying “Do your fucking job, do your fucking job”.
This shows once again how using the same terminology for something which is light years apart in terms of damage is bad. What actually got reported here? What is the message now? Combat CSAM, or Combat CSAM and stick figures? Does it not matter if it actually depicts children, or not?

This might actually lead to Twitter bowing over and banning loli for good since a proceeding against them has already been started.

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Well, first of all, that ‘lawyer’ is a dipshit grifter and a liar for saying that, since for it to be considered CSAM, it must include and depict an actual child. Merely appearing, or being described as, a fictional ‘child’ is not enough. It must be an image of a real child. That’s how the United States defines it legally and it’s how the scientific and artistic communities regard it, otherwise depictions made with adults who appear to be children could be considered CSAM, and that runs afoul of and trivializes the very principle entirely.

Also, Twitter has been cracking down on loli/shota material, whether it’s shadowbanning profiles who post it or banning artists. I personally know people who keep talley check marks of which account they’re on now, many who reside in the US and also Germany. There even was a meme where a user who posted loli hentai actually screenshotted an email sent to him by Twitter, wherein (ironically required under German law) they actually notified them of a tweet that was reported, investigated, and ultimately cleared by Twitter staff as a non-violation of Twitter’s rules.
The cited tweet was an explicit drawing of a popular loli character.

This really is the duality of man right in our faces, and nobody seems to really know what the hell to think of it. I genuinely think Twitter is better reverting their policy to how things were prior to 2020, where only images which depicted, or were made using, real children were considered violations of their CSE policies. As a US-based platform, it would be within their rights to do this.

I should also mention that any time I report an account soliciting CSAM or sharing CSAM spam links, they get removed within the hour, if not day.
I encourage everyone to report CSAM links and requests for it to Twitter, and if they know who is responsible, to the NCMEC.

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Sorry, I did perhaps not made it clear enough, but the lawyer is a german lawyer who referred to NetzDG which forces german law upon all social media plattforms with more than two million users. Regardless if it is legal in their own country or not.

NetzDG is obsolete soon, but the new EU version (Digital Services Act) makes such content pretty much impossible to host in the EU. It prohibits any content illegal in at least one of the EU member states. Also, unlike the NetzDG it does not exclusively apply to social media platforms.

The lawyer has also linked that twitter response that it is not in violation of any laws, so the meme is real, because I doubt they either know the law, or care since it is not forbidden as per ToS.

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of Germany, you mean?

Yes

/uoooooooh20char

If you need help doing that, Prostasia recently published a guide:
https://prostasia.org/get-help/csam

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“It’s not about doing actual good, it’s about doing something that most people see as good (even if it is actually harmful) so that you can distract them from your massive failures.”

Or promote the opposite.

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