16 years old. I really need help

Do you remember the nickname Nathan Larson used on this site?

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yes I believe it was leucostic or something spelt that way I can’t remember the exact pronounciation or spelling cause everybody just called him nathan

I think I heard about that website some time ago. He created a bunch of simaler websites if i remember correctly.

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yes but the most recent one is pretty much dead. Now that hes gone, Theyve all be removed or never catch ground. One man involved who i know is still out there is a man named “goring”. I believe hes german

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Btw for people unaware who Nathan is, just google him. He was recently arrested for kidnapping

Hi.

Here’s a post by @terminus, the ED of @Prostasia, to a place that might be able to help you, if you hadn’t considered reaching out to them already.

What happened to you is a tragic story, and I think it perfectly encapsulates why it’s important these types of issues be brought to light, and more showcases showcases, importantly, why minors shouldn’t be allowed into pro-contact, pro-abuse communities.

Perhaps the most important thing I should tell you is that pro-contact is pro-abuse, and under ZERO circumstances should adult-child sexual activity be allowed, even if you were a victim of abuse yourself and you have these urges and interests.

However, you should not beat yourself up over them, nor should you feel ashamed or upset over them, so long as you are not at risk of acting on them against a real child.

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I know, and I appreciate it. I just want to find a healthy alternative because I don’t think abstaining from sexual activity is necisarily very healthy either.

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the link that terminus posted is great but I’m not in any immediate danger nor am I an immediate danger to anybody else. There are just no other resources quite similar to this website that specialize in helping Pedophiles cope/restrain from offending. It feels like we as a society are still just barely coming to terms with what pedophilia actually is and therefore, there are very limited resources.

Many consider that the term “pedophile” is often synonymous with “child abuser”, but it is quite the contrary. To shorten, “child abusers” are no different from normal abusers who find opportunities of power, whereas “pedophilia” is considered a sexual orientation, where attraction to children by itself is not considered a risk factor for offending.

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It isn’t, so long as it’s not with real minors.
Please consider reaching out to VirPed if you hadn’t already.
They’re a community of anti-contact NOMAPs with a great community, some of whom have been able to help further research into the effects of fictional/simulated/virtual pornography as a means of furthering CSA prevention.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1079063220965953

They’re currently conducting research into the therapeutic effects of pornography.

Though, if you’re a minor, I can’t really go any further than that.

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I don’t think it’s necisarily an orientation more so a fetish/paraphilia. maybe in some cases pedophilia may be around since birth but from the people I’ve talked to, it seems like it is developed. Maybe it is though and I’m just wrong lol. I have no clue. I’m not a scientist

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I am above the age of consent where I live if that puts you at ease with talking to me

Eh… nah. 18 and up.

I don’t feel like adult content, such as fictional/simulated/virtual child pornography would be appropriate discussion to have with a minor.

I’ve explained my points well enough, I hope you understand my position here.

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I do and I greatly appreciate it. If you would like to talk more about non sexual topics regarding the perception of pedophilia, I would be more than happy to have that conversation

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It’s not just the case with law, it’s also about ethics. Chie is right in refusing to elaborate further about topics of pornography with anyone under the age of 18. It’s not just illegal regardless of the age of consent, but also simply inappropriate.

As for your concerns:

I don’t think you have to worry about your sexuality as of yet. You are still 16, you went through a difficult situation, you have to deal with a lot of complex emotions and evaluate everything you went through till you can achieve clarity of mind.

I was sexually exploited in my youth, so I understand how chaotic figuring out your sexuality is considering such experiences. I also worried that I might be a pedophile, because I often heard that “people who were sexually abused in their childhood tend to become pedophiles themselves”. It’s not really true, but when you feel anxiety, everything sounds reasonable. I guess one piece of advice I can give to you is to be wary, that there is a lot of myths and misconceptions about the topic, that might sound reasonable and logical, but aren’t really true. Researching these topics on my own is one thing that has helped me personally, so it might help you too.

Checking out DSM-5 is a good start. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Version 5 (the latest one) is the main and fundamental diagnostic tool published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA). that serves as the principal authority for psychiatric diagnoses.

On page 698, you have criteria for diagnosing so-called “Pedophilic disorder”. Pedophilic disorder isn’t exactly the same as pedophilia.

Pedophilia on its own is defined as is a “paraphilia characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children”. A regular person still might be somewhat attracted to minors, but as long as their primary interest is in adults, (that is, they find adults more attractive than minors), it’s not really considered pedophilia, because such individuals can and is naturally preferring to pursue relationships with adults, rather than minors. Put differently, they derive more satisfaction and fulfillment from dating adults, than minors, even though they are capable of recognizing sexual attractiveness in underage individuals.

You said you are capable of finding 11+ attractive, but as long as you have a bigger interest in adults too, you are not really a pedophile.

Otherwise, there is a question of whenever you are a pedophile, or whenever you also have a paraphilic disorder.

These are the criteria for the pedophilic disorder:
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The criterion C is very relevant in your case. You are a 16-year-old, and you claimed to have an interest in 11+ individuals. That gives 5 years of difference. You are on the border, but as you can see, the psychologists in APA did decide that people in situations like yours, shouldn’t be really considered as having a pedophilic disorder, because “of the difficulty during adolescent development in differentiating it from an age-appropriate sexual interest in peers or from sexual curiousity”:
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Your interest is not really abnormal considering your age, and you really have to still develop in order to really be sure if that interest is stable, or whenever it will change.

So you really have no need to worry. Regardless of whenever you are a pedophile or not, what really matters is whenever you are a good person or a bad one.

And seeing your initial post it’s clear to me that your worries stem from your empathy and understanding of why sexual exploitation of minors is harmful and unfair to the child. So it’s easy for me to conclude that you are a good person and that you will not commit any criminal activity that would involve a child. Simply because you are just like the rest of society, and you prioritize the wellbeing of others over personal temporary pleasure.

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wtf is your problem. I am in therapy you dickhead. I came here because I worried that I myself may be at risk of being a pedophile/hebephile and this is a fucking support group to prevent people like me from causing harm to ourselves or others. I can’t just “leave the fucking internet behind” as you put it. And yeah, DavidKlng is obviously not my fucking name. I didn’t have a bad expierence with pedophiles. I had a bad expierence with child abusers. People like you make me wanna fucking hurt somebody. Idk if its myself or somebody else but I’m so tired of you pieces of shit.

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Pay him no mind… I’m trying to get him banned from the forum.

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what is his fucking problem though.

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Honestly i don’t know what is wrong with him he regularly posts incomprehensible text blocks.

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He’s a pro-contact weirdo who’s been on here, posting his weird ‘poetry’ while also trying to undermine Prostasia and its community.

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