Darrin-bell-arrested-on-child-porn-charges

I just caught wind of this. It looks interesting.

It appears that a category of AI generated images has been criminalized.

The comment section is rich.

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Note that it appears Bell had both AI-CSAM and IRL-CSAM. So heā€™s not totally off the hook even if cleared of any charges related to AI.

Some comments in there that I found interesting:

The success of any new communications medium depends on its ability to distribute pornography. Consider the printing press, photography, videotapes, the Internet, and now AI. In his series Tales from the White Hart, the science fiction author Arthur C Clarke wrote a story about an inventor who created a machine that replicates the sensory impressions of people. The first one was of a gourmet eating a fine meal. The next oneā€¦ you can guess. He also wrote I Remember Babylon, where he had a (fictional) conversation about China planning to use communication satellites (which Clarke invented) to beam shows (I think his example was a tour of erotic Indian art) with accompanying propaganda directly into peopleā€™s homes. Virtual reality, anyone? My Clarke references are from memory, clarifications and corrections welcome.

Not all pedophiles are pederasts. Some of them suffer in silence, never acting on it. So is AI porn, of any kind, so bad? If it satisfies a pedophile, and harms no one, it seems more of a solution than a problem. I am aware that Bell had other CASM, Iā€™m not referring to that particular instance, especially since, as Nick Anderson writes above. I will forswear judging him. But I think a discussion of AI porn and its implications just might be useful.

AI is not original. AI takes material from the entire Web and combines it into a new image. What needs to be known, I think, is whether the images in question were films, photos, or illustrations. The first two could be based on actual children, or not. Itā€™s getting harder and harder to tell.

I find the timing of this event troubling. Darrin Bell is a great political cartoonist who pulls no punches. Political cartoonists have been dropped from papers, or have left, due to ownersā€™ changed emphases. It is a bad time for them. Political and editorial cartoonists have almost always practiced with targets on their backs. Until we get more definitive info, Iā€™d prefer to think of this as belonging in that area of conjecture.

Edit: already seeing some really despicable comments on Reddit about Bell. Accusing him of molesting his own children, using this as an excuse to be racist towards other black men like Bell, saying that Bell is ā€œfar-leftā€ and that all leftists support CSAM, etc.

Also something interesting I found: two political cartoons where Bell criticizes the GOP for grooming children:

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If the statutory language of the law is anything to go by, itā€™s only able to be prosecutable against images that depict/appear to depict ā€˜persons below 18 years of ageā€™. The statute defines ā€˜personā€™ as:

ā€œPersonā€ means any individual, partnership, firm, association, corporation, limited liability company, or other legal entity.

California has precedent dealing with how ā€˜personā€™ is defined. There was a case back in the early 2010s that essentially found that splicing/photoshopping the likeness of a real minor into sexually explicit situations was not enough to meet the definition of CP, due to issues with the word ā€˜personallyā€™ affecting the language of the statute.

If the logic of that case were to be applied today, then the phrasing ā€˜appears to beā€™ would follow a similar meaning since the statute does not require that said ā€˜person below 18 years of ageā€™ need not physically exist.

I hope this interpretation holds up. People shouldnā€™t be allowed to sexualize real minors by way of deepfakes or AI images, but that rationale shouldnā€™t be misapplied to depictions that do not involve real minors or victimization.

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The california updated law also has an obscenity test so it is likely to survive challenges.

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Against AI made with actual persons, yes. But the principles of statutory construction seem to relegate it to depictions of actual ā€˜personsā€™, as outlined by the definition contained within the statute. I found this summary of the precedent which supports my research.

The conviction for possession of child pornography is unsupported where the image does not ā€œdepictā€ an actual child. Section 311.11, subdivision (a) prohibits possession of any image which depicts a child under the age of 18 years personally engaging in or simulating sexual conduct. The legislative history of section 311.11 reflects the purpose of the law was to protect children from sexual exploitation and to criminalize the possession of child pornography. To achieve this objective, and based on the words of the statute, it appears that an actual child must have been used in production and actually engaged in the sexual conduct or simulated sexual acts. To hold otherwise would be to render the word ā€œpersonallyā€ superfluous and might run afoul of First Amendment protections.

I would concede that the phrasing ā€˜appear to beā€™ would be concerning, but itā€™s still constrained by the definition of ā€˜personā€™, and its inclusion wouldnā€™t be superfluous or ineffectual because it conforms with the precedent in Gerber.

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