EU: chat control campaigns and deep fake CSAM

The EU told its member states to initiate a chat control campaign which highlights its importance and benefits on the fight against child abuse. To do so they must present cases to the public which lead to successful convictions through gaining access to chat or similar means.

A police “operational action plan” on preventing child sexual abuse includes a requirement for almost 30 states and EU agencies to gather five case studies, each intended to contribute to EU “policy development” on preventing and combating sexual abuse. While few would disagree with the ends, it is likely that one of the proposed means will be to undermine encryption, threatening the privacy and safety of all users of digital communications technologies.

They also want to give the police of every EU member state the legal rights to produce deep fake CSAM for luring in criminals.

UK has already launched its campaign, expect other countries to follow before march since that’s when the next EU meeting happens:

https://www.noplacetohide.org.uk/

“for luring in criminals”
…what

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They should have at least been honest and used the word, “entrapping”, as opposed to “luring in”.

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what i don’t get is, if their goal is to end the sexual abuse of children and their goal is to flood the market with deepfake stuff, why use it for luring in criminals?? Why not capitalize in their ability to produce material capable of satisfying the pedophilic gaze and outright state that it’s fictional, and make such content available?? It would cause the CSAM market to fizzle up!!

Obviously concessions would need to be made with regard to actual likenesses and realism, but hell!

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“See, it’s ok for us to simulate realistic cp cuz our intentions are pure! We’re only doing it to catch would-be molesters! Oh, but if you make the same stuff to satisfy your urges without actually violating anyone, you’re a sicko and we’ll hunt you to the ends of the earth!”

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Because they themselves are jacking off to the idea of “hunting monsters”.

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Funnily enough, I’ve heard stories of FBI agents getting arrested for cp. These agents claimed that looking at csam all day turned them into pedophiles.

I would argue they were already pedophilic/predatory and specifically joined the FBI so they could legally look at that stuff for their occupation, but going through FBI training and rising through the ranks just for that? I dunno…

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Really, there are only two alternatives here:

  1. The police may actively create and distribute fictional CP because it is harmless. But in that case there is no reason to criminalize it for everyone else, is there?
  2. Fictional CP is outlawed because it is in some way harmful and encourages CSA. But in that case the police is actively causing harm by creating said material and making it available.

The only way you can try and bring those alternatives together is by somehow claiming that yes, fictional CP is harmful, but in distributing it the police can prevent more harm by catching more perpetrators (this is more or less the argument the police made when it was uncovered that they allow links containing CSAM to continue existing). But this is an extremely flimsy argument with zero empirical backing, that upon closer inspection has more holes than a piece of Swiss cheese that was used as target practice at a shooting gallery.

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