Help with Twitter ( X ) Have I been reported to the NCMEC?

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Hi, there.
I need help guys and I can’t think of any other place where I could talk freely about this.

I am ( well was ) a very active roleplayer in the TwitRp community.
The thing is, I am into ageplay.
And at first I only used Hentai and Anime characters to roleplay with, but I eventually moved onto real life Onlyfans girls as OCs for my Faceclains.

I roleplayed ageplay with most of my accounts.
Sometimes I was a loli, sometimes I was a MILF, sometimes I was a guy, sometimes I was a monster but I always roleplayed ageplay.

I also roleplayed with other users who used an actual child as a profile picture. It was an edited picture and they were NEVER explicit but they used a real life child as their FaceClaim. And maybe that was wrong. . . They never shared real life Child Sexual abuse Material but they shared porn and explicit content.

These users I roleplayed with, I assumed, were never minors. Since the Twitter community was mostly of age and as soon as we found out there was a minor, we always stepped back.

I have been roleplaying ageplay on Twitter for the last three years. And I, jumping from one account to the next always managed to delete most of them. Mostly cause I didn’t like leaving them open.

The thing is, due to the content of my accounts I have been suspended before. However I recently got suspended FOR GOOD. About a month ago I was suspended and they wouldn’t let me back in until recently.
(Probably because my dynamic IP changed.)

But at that time I knew something was off. I had never been banned LIKE THAT.

Unfortunately I have no way to access that account’s email adress. Cause I always used burner emails. So I can’t see any more details regarding why I was banned.

All I know is I was banned for Violating the Twitter Rules.
All I could think of was the Child Sexual Explotation policy.

And I finally started doing some research. And I found out Twitter reports to the NCMEC.

And I had been posting and roleplaying publicly on their platform for three years.
Using both the DMs and the TL to roleplay very explicit ageplay.
I also posted lolicon content and a little bit of 3D Shotacon. And some of my accounts had my characters admitting and openly saying they were “kid lovers”.

Having said that, the Twitter ageplay community in Spanish ( cause I am from México ) is HUGE. And most of the accounts are even MORE explicit and OPENLY admit things like being PEDWHORES or PEDPHILES.

Most of the experienced accounts know that we need to censor some of our wording. Like I would write: “Come here littl■ b■y.” As a way to censor myself a bit with child related terms.

My question is, guys am I cooked?

I am considering taking my own life cause Mexican prison is fucked up and the shortest sentence they give you out here is about 5 years for Possession with no intent of Distribution but since I was posting PUBLICLY I could be facing up to 18 years.

Can I get some advice? What should I do?

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Hey, I hear that you’re scared, and that makes sense, but please don’t make any rash decisions. It sounds like you’ve read this part of X’s terms of service:

For violations of our Child Sexual Exploitation policy:

  • in the majority of cases, users will be immediately and permanently suspended;
  • additionally, when we’re made aware of content depicting or promoting child sexual exploitation, including links to third party sites where this content can be accessed, the accounts sharing this content will be reported to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC).

Violating X’s Child Sexual Exploitation policy does not mean that you have done anything illegal, in the USA, Mexico, or anywhere else. For example, sharing “fantasies about child sexual exploitation” and “promoting or normalizing sexual attraction to minors as a form of identity or sexual orientation” are both violations of this policy, but are not violations of the law in any country as far as I’m aware. (edit: i guess some countries do ban “fantasies” in the sense of erotic writing about children, but the USA does not.)

Let’s talk about the NCMEC. They are a USA government agency that helps to lessen the damaging effects of child sexual exploitation material (CSEM), among other things. One of the things they do is maintain a database of CSEM images. This helps law enforcement track down people producing CSEM (by looking for identifying details in the images) and also helps platforms check user-uploaded content against the database to make sure people aren’t uploading known CSEM. This is actually the main reason I know about the NCMEC, as I’ve used an API to check images against their database before.

I believe that Twitter would only report your account to the NCMEC if you had been sharing CSEM or links to CSEM. It sounds like you have not been, so even if they shared your account details with the NCMEC, they wouldn’t do anything with that information.

Relax. It seems like you’ll be okay. Maybe take a break from the role playing for a while to feel safe. Research online privacy and security best practices. When you’re feeling better, maybe make another X account on Proton VPN. Or, if you’re confident with English (which it seems like you are), consider using a platform like F-List which is more friendly to ageplay as far as I can tell.

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So, written fantasies such as Roleplay is not something the NCMEC reports to authorities? Because I never ever posted any CSAM. I was actually very clear about it in every single profile I always used. I used tags such as: Minors Do not Interact and Not Condoned IRL. Roleplay only.

Does that mean that both Twitter and the NCMEC would know and understand that a Roleplay scenario ( even if ifs in spanish ) wouldn’t be considered CSAM. ( even if it describes sexually explicit behavior around a fantasy minor ? Shotacon/Loli/the FC of a Minor )

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Mexico has no law prohibiting fictional content, so why are you even scared in the first place? The AI response you got from the guy before is not helping either.

In Mexico any speech related to sexual preferences (such as fictional art) is protected under the legislation from Articles 13(3) that provides the right of expression may not be restricted by indirect methods or means, such as the abuse of government or private controls over newsprint, radio broadcasting frequencies, or equipment used in the dissemination of information, or by any other means tending to impede the communication and circulation of ideas and opinions

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I am scared because Mexican law is kind of all over the place. And it is very broad about their Laws and Definitions.

For example, this is what the Optional Protocol on the Sale of Children, Child Prostitution, and Child Pornography (OPSC) of the UN states about Child Pornography on it 2nd Article:

(c) Child pornography means any representation, by whatever means, of a child engaged in real or simulated explicit sexual activities or any representation of the sexual parts of a child for primarily sexual purposes.

See? Very broad. Any means, any representation of a child in real or simulated sexual activities.

However the UN protocol has no power over Mexican Citizens and instead has power over Mexican Laws. Which means the OPSC forces Mexican Law to consider the legal definitions on the 2nd Article in order to prosecute their own laws.

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That is the same definition as within the EU and it only applies to real children. Fictional content has its own part where it states “Realistic images”, if that is missing in Mexico then nothing to worry about.

If it helps, that is also the same definition in the US, but it does not apply to fictional either:

Child pornography under federal law is defined as any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor

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But I did roleplay with people using real Children as their profile picture. And they engaged with me in sexually explicit activities. As long as they are not real minors, I’m okay?

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I would say so. Your profile picture does not matter as it is not pornographic.
Ageplay is also not illegal either. We had some cases her as well where two individuals roleplayed like that and the case was dismissed, because it was only an exchange of fantasies.

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Well in Mexico there’s this thing called Preventive Imprisonment.
They put you in prison, before you have any trials or cases.
And then they leave you there, until they work out your case. Which can take up to 5 years.

I know Ageplay is not illegal but the thing is, my actions were morally questionable at best.
And I’m pretty sure that if this got to the Mexican authorities, I might suffer consequences even if I am innocent.

The media will ruin my reputation and the police can put me behind bars without even conducting a thorough investigation.

They can just say: Yes, he is suspected of child pornography, therefore he must be in jail. We will work out the details later.

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Anyone else has any takes? :frowning:

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Alright guys, I guess I am officially done.

Twitter DOES report roleplay to the NCMEC.
Apparently they are working with Thorn to use Text-Based Detection of CSAM that includes what they call Online Enticement and Sextortion.

The thing is, some of my Roleplays were based on “enticement” and “sextortion”. There were never minors involved but that DOESN’T matter anymore because apparently they believe Child Pornography is defined as: any depiction through any means of a child in sexual activity and exhibition, real or simulated. If there’s a child involved or not, it doesn’t matter.

So, thank you everyone.
I guess it’s too late for me.

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As far as I’m able to figure out, Twitter only reports CSAM and CSAM-related activities to the NCMEC, per their legal requirements. Plenty of lolisho and twitter ERP accounts have run into similar incidents. Twitter does not report 2D lolisho pornography (nor do they consider it CSAM), and with regard to 3DCG renders, I believe it’s the same.

With regard to 3DCG, as far as I’ve been able to surmise, Twitter only reports photorealistic images to the NCMEC (i.e. when they can’t distinguish it from a photo; 3DCG images do not meet this requirement because they are distinguishable as being rendered images).

Twitter isn’t Google. Relax.

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And they do report grooming/sextortion to the NCMEC, but that does not include roleplay with another adult. At most that’s a violation of their policies, rather than law or something they would need to report. Basically, if the recipient of your messages is a minor, then it’s a report.. They have to investigate these types of complaints on a case-by-case basis, and considering how overwhelmed they are, you’re not going to have to worry.

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My god. This brings me such peace of mind.

I was literally thinking about leaving the country of offing myself. . .

Guys, if I ever feel bad or lonely can I reach out to you?

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Yes you can. This is a pretty tight-knit community of similar-minded people. You’ll be fine

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HEY EVERYONE GREAT NEWS!

As I was investigating I came across a statement from Thorn’s Safer.Ai, the AI they use to identify Text-Based CSAM and in their findings during the Beta Testing they did on Social Media ( Twitter participated in that Beta Testing ) one of the benefits of the use of this AI was the following:

Noise reduction:

The model revealed to platforms the frequency of both spam and role playing, which were louder than anticipated. The results help trust and safety teams reduce noise so they can focus on detecting and reporting true abuse. The “CSA discussions” label helps streamline child safety workflows by identifying text sequences that discuss CSAM out of outrage, humor, satire, or sarcasm.

In other words, to Thorn, to the platforms and to the NCMEC Roleplay is nothing but NOISE.
And it does not represent CSAM.

Looks like I’m gonna be alright.

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I have an update on this matter.
Although this isn’t the first time my accounts have been banned ( I have had a crazy amount of Twitter accounts )

I am still fearing for my life and my future as of now cause they might mean nothing will happen, cause it never did. Or it might mean I digged a deeper hole. Cause apparently the NCMEC bundles all the reports that they’ve gotten from the same Device ID or the same IP or whatever identifiers they choose to use to detect you.

So, like I stated before I’ve been doing ageplay for years now. Several.

And I had some accounts closed and some accounts banned before but I never considered a couple of things:

Number 1: I never really knew the ages of the people I interacted with.

Number 2: if you’re roleplaying sexually explicit behavior with someone and the age of a character is mentioned, then there is a suspicion that that person might be a minor cause even tho you might consider they’re “roleplaying”. When seen from the outside it can be justification for the authorities to investigate you.

Now here’s the thing with somebody’s age and wether or not it can be inferred before a moderator decides to turn your life upside down:

• Twitter relies on whatever the age you state you are and only when you create your account and only recently started using AI to determine someone’s age considering the way they talk [which sounds stupid, by the way] and probably that was okay before but not anymore because of the Protect Act.

Well, the PROTECT Act wasn’t a thing up until 2024 so my old accounts might be ok, but my recently banned accounts might not.

So, this is what has put the FEAR of GOD in me.

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The REPORT Act will expand providers’ legal reporting requirements to the CyberTipline to cover (1) apparent violations of child sex trafficking and (2) coercion and enticement of minors.

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Apparent coercion and enticement of minors.

In other words, it doesn’t need to be a minor. Just the apparent enticement is enough to have you reported to the NCMEC.
And in a platform like Twitter where you can’t even verify somebody’s age other than what they say they are that’s extremely tricky.

But for a damn fool like me, that roleplayed and interacted sexually explicit content ( which according to the NCMEC counts as Fictional Text Depiction of CSAM and should be reported anyway ) with unknown people and didn’t ask their age that makes me a sitting duck.

Now, if the NCMEC receives a tip from Twitter indicating I apparently “enticed a minor” I don’t even think they’re gonna hesitate sending that tip to the authorities. In this case, the Mexican Authorities.

And guess what the Mexican Law about a minor being or not involved in “apparent CSAM”

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In my country when they’re not sure wether the person involved is a minor or not, they legally adress it as if there was a minor.

Which means they can put me in jail without even figuring out if there was a minor or not involved. And then figure out if there was a minor or not. Which can take forever and might not even be possible cause the Police would have to track down the other Twitter users and verify none of them is a minor and they might be from differents countries and that means I might be fucked up for life if the prosecution wants me to.

In conclusion:
I have no way to know wether or not my life is done.
Technically, my wellbeing depends on Twitter moderation.
If they consider I’m just a horny roleplayer of age, roleplaying with other horny roleplayers of age, then I’m safe.

But, if for some reason Twitter determines that my account is suspicious of Child Sexual Exploitation. ( they don’t even need to verify if I am or not, they just need to suspect I am )

So, there you go. That’s my update.