The House in Kentucky passed a doll law. Whether it will reach the Senate is yet to be seen.
https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/24RS/hb207.html#actions
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Send those cases to Kentucky, then.
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The problem with all of these laws as I see them, is trying to legislate peopleâs thoughts. I heard something about Instagram and Congress, wanting to keep children safe by limiting content or something? And this idea of a âporn IDâ? You need an ID to buy cigarettes and alcohol, and in-person thatâs fairly easy. But trying to carry out gate-keeping on the internet, well, âstupid, lazy, parentsâ; THATâS YOUR JOB!!! Why donât you pay attention to what your kids are doing!
When I was a kid, TV was only a few decades old. Parents complained that kids watched too much of it. (Frankly, most of what was there was 50s and 60s reruns, and the 70s were strange anyway, so really it was all bad.) âGo outside and play!â was their answer. Unsupervised. Mind you, there were no cell phones or computers. Things could happen but kidnapping or molestation by strangers was not a common thing. For the most part as time progressed, parents realized they could plop their toddler in front of a TV set and they be mesmerized for hours. That became the babysitter.
When I was sitting in a financial aid office in a hospital 10 years ago, after I had been there and needed financial help. I witnessed these 3 little Hispanic kids fighting over a brand new over $600 iPad at the time. Yet they needed financial aid for their medical bills. So how could they afford a $600 iPad when I could barely get by? I started seeing more and more, young kids playing games, watching videos on cell phones and iPads from 4 to 12. WTF?? So now the internet is the new babysitter!
So what do we do? We attempt to legislate parenting. The government is NOT the parent. Anyone can have a kid. No license required. If their kids are getting into drugs and watching porn itâs the parentâs fault!! They make software filters for mature content. No one uses them, they canât be bothered, too complicated, blah, blah, blah. NO! Youâre a LAZ|Y PARENT!! You donât pay attention to the video games your kid is buying or playing, much less the tv shows they watch. You have no idea what theyâre doing on the computer. You likely canât name their friends or their parents. Do you even know what their favorite color is and why? You just donât pay them much more attention than you do the dog or cat. You donât need to become tech savy. Know the basics but moreover, talk to your kids about the dangers out there. Sit with them and show them why. They are a blank canvas, they need input and guidance. Not adulting authoritarian style BS! âNoâ should be a big part of a parentâs vocabulary, followed by an explanation. Not âbecause I said so!â BS!
This relying on the gov. to do everything for you is just sheer laziness. If someoneâs making something illegal for people to buy, itâs not a requirement you go and find it and buy it! Trying to control the internet and wrangle in all thatâs out there is just authoritarian at best and fascist at worst. Black markets will always exist. Telling businesses what they can and canât offer for responsible adults is fascist. Problem is, no one wants to be responsible for themselves or their actions.
Unlicensed parents of children need to take responsibility for raising those children and stop letting gov. run schools and laws try to legislate parenting! Taking away everyone elseâs freedoms in the process. Yeah, because most people want to act like theyâre 3 and have the gov. do everything for them. I certainly donât need gov. breathing down my neck 24/7 telling me what I ALLOWED to do or not do. Iâm an adult! And 3yos donât sit around smoking cigarettes, drinking beer, and watching TV all day. Oh, wait, they do watch TV all day. Because of LAZY PARENTS!!
I can see already, even my spell check doesnât like the word âfascistâ. It wouldnât display it as an optional spelling when I left out the âsâ. Point is, these laws of predictions and possible outcomes based on assumptions and possible intents need to stop and be rescinded. This is thought policing and âfuture crimeâ. Intent doesnât mean anything until acted upon. Most of us would be in prison for wishing someone in our lives dead if that were the case?
Just because I buy a $1,000 doll that looks like an 8yo, does NOT AUTOMATICALLY constitute any intention of wanting to practice breeding with it. I paid MY money for IT. My âintentionsâ with IT, should be nobodyâs business!! Same as Iâm not thinking a parentâs automatically gonna do something sexual with their kids while theyâre alone at home and shut the bedroom door. I know if it were me, it would be because they needed a serious talk or had something personal they needed to talk about and were afraid to share openly.
Governments need to remember an object is not a person. A machine is a machine. Stop conflating one with the other. Assuming âworst caseâ scenarios and surmising what a person âmayâ do! And peadophiles are NOT automatically molesters. Same as someone buying a handgun isnât automatically out to rob a liquor store. When will the insanity ever end?!?!
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I donât figure this is the right place to put this. Iâm putting it here anyway. I think itâs insightful. I felt surprised to find that the military had any regulations about dolls.
Punishment for failing to feel protective of a doll or for not subscribing to sympathetic magic cannot be justified.
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Sounds like âindecencyâ is the military catch-all charge for prosecuting any behavior they want. Just like âobscenityâ charges for civilians. This was a sad but interesting read. Donât know what a random judge may find to be indecent? Tough luck now get in a cage.
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This article looks interesting.
Iâm just dropping it here.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1023263X231176908
The article does not mention the US.
One section that looks interesting is entitled âDefinition of a childlike sex doll.â
Oh Iâve seen this article before, at around sometime last year I think. Without re-reading it, I recall that it just goes over different approaches but doesnât really take a side.
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â Currently there is no empirical support for either of the two positions.â - Yeah, sure. If you casually dismiss every other sexual outlet that has been studied.
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Wisconsin passed the doll law. At least an article suggests so. According to the history of the bill, it has been presented.
Everyone keeps reiterating that no one really cares about dolls but that, somehow, punishment for not caring about dolls can be justified. A failure to feel protective of what doesnât matter renders nothing to evaluate evil with. The discourse about dolls is absurd.
Itâs not evil to think that shape cannot make a lifeless object precious, nor is it evil to think that what happens to a doll doesnât matter; hence, punishment for doll ownership cannot be justified on the grounds that there is any evil to punish for.
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Well, IDK, would organizations like the ACLU even bother with this, or are they still useless?
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They have in the past over the private possession of erotic novels and other forms of VCP, including cartoons. These are, after all, civil liberties issues.
I can see them getting involved if contacted by the appropriate parties.
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Anything recent? Well, I suppose, if one were to contact them for this, it would be recent.
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They can be notoriously difficult to contact; I wouldnât mind if @prostasia could try since we are a legitimate nonprofit.
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Also, there is the danger of private companies doing it:
ESG and all that bullshit.
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Great! Flat and squared off is just what we prefer!
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So⌠Basically Minecraft?
Itâs becoming increasingly risky for those of us who try to speak up for dolls on social media. I asked one female on X why she felt doll owners deserve a life sentence for masturbation with plastic. Her reply was to simply attack me and demand that I identify myself (to be doxed of course). I donât know how much longer I can keep up the good fight, as these doll bans spread and go mostly unchallenged.
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Iâm assuming that said female is just some idiot, like the same morons who want to ban loli. For example, this video appears to be around 5 hours long, but itâs only because of one âdebaterâ repeating the same overly done moralistic bullshit:
Donât get sad (depressed). Get mad. Get angry. Hate your enemies, if you must. Remember. Through passion, one gains strength. When speaking with antis, go in under the assumption that they are the enemy.
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Everyone feels itâs too risky to speak out against the hate; lest you become the target of unchecked, misguided, aggression! Iâm not sure anyone is brave enough to stand up, be willing to put your life under a microscope, and go âScorched Earthâ, head to head with the angry, torch bearing, mob?
Unironically, their torch only represents their vitriol for the wrong people (us); instead of the true monsters. Their hypocrisy within their own behaviors toward their own children.
Just look around at all the dysfunctional adults everywhere and ask them how enchanted their childhood went?
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The vast majority of those on the ground do not care about what doll someone has or about how someone handles a doll. However, many who advocate these doll laws are truly dangerous.
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