Reported CSAM on Facebook

I opened up my browser to Facebook today, and somehow I got added to a Messenger group that I am certain I never joined, as whatever it was titled was in another language. At 1st all I seen was adult porn and didn’t think much of it… then I scrolled up a ways and seen someone posting CSAM, at least one picture and a video. I promptly reported the group to Facebook and left it, then cleared my browser cache. Hopefully that is the end of it, but it scares me that it’s so easy for this stuff to be spread and so much as having it in cache can be a conviction. I am just feeling shaken at the moment.

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You did the right thing by reporting it. Hope you’re okay.

Being exposed to CSAM can be very stressful, indeed. It’s not like seeing a 3DCG model, doll, or 2D drawing. The grim reality of knowing that’s a real child being victimized can be very traumatic for a lot of people.


I am feeling better now, but that definitely ruined my evening and made it difficult for me to sleep last night. I guess my brain went into full blown panic mode, and I am normally an emotionally stable person. The idea that my life can be put at risk because someone I never met or friended starts spewing CSAM on such an open platform as Facebook, is frightening to me.

Not a lawyer, but I believe any sort of CSAM conviction would require the government to prove some level of intent. Simply stumbling across content is not a punishable offense to my knowledge.

Granted, there is a serious need for greater protections for people who report such content in general

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There are a large number of crimes that do not require intent. I don’t know if that’s the case with CSAM, but wouldn’t be surprised either.

What I find disturbing is when law enforcement wants to charge someone BECAUSE of what they surmise is intent. When actually there hasn’t been a crime yet. Or they attempt to SAY there was a crime even if without the text conversation, the supposed crime would be considered nothing, not breaking any law. They just try to base it on possible intent from the PRIVATE conversation. Getting into the nebulous realm of “thought crime” and “possible future crime”.

That’s exactly what they are attempting do do with these laws against small dolls. Too much “reasonable to assume”, “maybe”, and “possibly”. ALL of those wordings are self-evident that there has been no provable crime “beyond a REASONABLE doubt” committed yet. It’s entirely assumptive in nature. Yet lawmakers continue to follow this misguided path of logic and “witch hunt” attitude toward them.

I’ve heard of that being the case in the U.K. A professor mentioned it briefly in a paper about privacy. What a shithole.

I’ve seen stupid takes from you but I don’t interpret them as indicative of intent to commit a crime. As an example, you thought that no one cares if teens have sex with each other. Maybe, they don’t lock them up, which is a harm itself. They care enough to send them to creepy abuse camps in Utah. They care enough that parents trying to stop it has showed up in Hollywood films.

Despite All the Panic, Millennial Teens Have Much Less Sex Than Their Elders Did Less of that is happening with the advent of the Internet.


And why should anyone care if 2 16yos are having sex? They get sex ed by 3rd grade now!
Yeah, a parent cares whether or not their kid’s having sex. They don’t want to have to deal with a teen pregnancy. The deeper reasons you WOULD care run deeper than what’s glossed over and mired in religious rhetoric and “obedience”.

From that article:

  1. "…in the period between 1988 and 2013.

As of 2011-2013, 44 percent of teen girls surveyed and 47 percent of teen boys said they had sexual intercourse—compared to 51 and 60 percent, respectively, of their 1988 counterparts."

That should read “…since 1988”. Not “between”. They give no in-between data to support the misstatement.

  1. “…and the pull-out method are now the most popular teen contraception choices.”

Just because it’s popular doesn’t mean it’s effective. The “pull-out method” is only a person’s “best guess” as to the moment.

  1. " Emergency contraception (EC) use over this period, however, rose significantly: from 8 percent in 2002 to 22 percent in 2011-2013. This coincides, albeit barely, with the Food and Drug Administration’s 2013 decision to allow the EC known as “Plan B One-Step” to be sold without a prescription to anyone aged 15 and above."

Something not available in 1988. Likely explains the slight dip around the 2003-4 mark on the graph.

  1. “Whatever the method, increased contraception usage among teens is paying off.”

The “increased contraception” is to start introducing them to gender identity at as young of an age as possible! Turning them all into LGBTQ+…'s!

Birthrates throughout the modern, westeern world are declining overall

I’m not aware of any of those films? Only more and more sexual diversity in almost every film and TV show. Straight up male/female characters have become the minority.