Sooo... is it safe to say that Loli and Shota are officially illegal in the USA? (No, they're not)

I ask this because, from my personal experience, you cannot search for Loli and Shota on any American websites. If you type it into Google, you will get a warning, links to federal websites, and a bunch of other unrelated content, and similar standards apply on other American websites where such content has been scrubbed from filters and search results. The only place I can still find such content is on Pixiv and from the looks of things, that won’t last long.

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Did I miss something?

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Nope, still legal.

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Last year there was a big U.N referendum to get Loli and Shota recognized as a form of child pornography among all UN member states. As far as I know, every single country has accepted the referendum. Japan challenged the referendum and eventually signed it but it hasn’t really committed to enforcing it. I read somewhere that in light of this, Australia has banned imports of sexually explicit material from Japan.

So I think Japan may eventually be pressured into eliminating loli and shota.

So it seems that while it’s not technically illegal. It’s de-facto illegal as all the major tech companies are actively preventing people from viewing it and placing federal warnings.

If I remember correctly, Austria and Denmark said “No.” to that as well.

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Also, nothing the U.N. does is legally binding. Japan can literally go “yeah, yeah, whatever” and have no obligation to wet-nurse them.

And it’s not like the U.N. has any high ground, either. :stuck_out_tongue:

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The US, Austria, and Japan all opposed it. No one signed anything, it was just a suggestion by the UN.

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Then why can’t you search up or discuss such material on American social media platforms?

Australia has banned imports of sexually explicit material from Japan.

This is largely a misunderstood statement based on a lot of media outlets just jumping the gun on a sensational topic in favor of views and attention. Doing more research on the topic, there actually seems to be some sort of common sense in recent years.

Yes, we still have some form of “obscenity” laws in place to deal with material that is actually viewed as CSAM and this includes child sex dolls unsurprisingly, however Australia in recent times to the best of my knowledge has stopped using their ANVIL/CSET/Oliver scales to categorize CSAM as sexually explicit hentai of any form usually keeps getting misclassified and ended up causing trouble for people who have had no connection with CSA.

As far as I have heard or seen, nobody has been recently prosecuted for sexually explicit hentai alone as CSAM classification now falls under the Interpol Baseline System (IBS) which concludes that there needs to be an actual victim for a case to be prosecuted. This is true for Queensland and federal legislation.

Q-CEM proposed rules

@Chie has mentioned this on the forums at some point as well, people who view lolicon/shota are usually more attracted to the body type as opposed to the age.

In short, you can be suspected of possessing CSAM if you possess loli/shota and can be subject to investigation, but most cases point to being anime exclusive and no further investigation is needed as it should be legal.

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Probably because they don’t want idiots writing fearmongering articles about how they “support pedophilia”.

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Although I agree that an “UN referendum” is worth as much as a bag of banana peel. I still would like to see details of that, like date, countries that signed, and who were the representatives. So I appreciate if anyone can point me to this info.

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Lolicon/shotacon is on the same level of legality as adult pornography.
It’s LEGAL unless determined to be obscene in a court of law, placing it in a grey area at worst.

Just because Google places a warning on specific terms doesn’t make them right, especially when there are plenty of other websites and publishers that still host loli/shota pornography that are hosted in the United States and are actively governed by US federal law.

4chan is probably the most notable example.


https://www.4chan.org/rules

4chan also cooperates with the NCMEC to report actual, illegal pornography and CSAM, being featured in their list of ESPs.
The fact that 4chan allows loli/shota on their site while also working with federal investigators to actively pursue real child pornography, as well as crimes related to politics (the Capitol riot suspects on /pol/) should be proof enough.

There are other services, too, like Steam, Fakku, MangaGamer, and JastUSA which all license and distribute loli/shota pornography in the United States.

Loli is de facto and in-practice legal in the United States.

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Because most mainstream tech platforms are targeting sexual discussion in general, due to pressure from financial institutions trying to play prude social politics.
It’s not just loli, but everything in these instances.

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The United States, Austria, and Japan all challenged that portion, with them all citing inconsistencies with the way they each view free speech and expression as well as there not being a legitimate interest in classifying virtual/simulated/fictional child pornography as CSAM/CSEM since no real child being involved.

Australia is quickly becoming a fascist state where rights, liberties, and freedoms are nothing more than ideas that both the government and their people see as obstacles between their interests in control.
They’re falling for the same spell that the Germans fell for, leading up to the creation and political control that was the Nazi party.

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Also, here’s a post which details everything pretty concisely and links to SCOTUS precedent.

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