What we can do to have shota/lolicon legal worldwide

Ok, this is not something easy and we won’t do big steps before we know we can do something like this but yeah i think we should discuss what we can do to decriminalize Art, fiction and even sex dolls in these countries that criminalized it, what i can think for now is that we need more researches to prove that lolicon isn’t inherently harmful to challenge the laws in court and also quoting international human rights law since even when the UN committee of childrens attempted to regulate art and fiction, UN human rights experts stated that banning art and fiction would violate international human rights and law and freedom of speech

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Well. According to 47% of users on AlltheFallen.Moe The only way to make shota and loli legal worldwide is to strip women of their human rights since they are CLEARLY the cause of anti-loli and anti-shota rhetorics.

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Then how come Lolicon is legal in Sweden? I know you quoted that as a joke but if i were to blame someone for making loli illegal in these countries, i would blame conservative old farts, i mean take in the UK and Australia small-chested women can’t make porn because they are considered children and also in UK they banned BDSM and lot of stuff, the fact that now even “liberals” are attacking art and fiction is concerning

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Whether it’s harmful or not is important, but not the most relevant factor for a lot of opponents of lolicon. They also feel that whether or not it is harmful, it’s immoral and that the state is entitled to ban it on that basis alone. This is really an ideological disagreement about the role of government. So in addition to proving that it’s not harmful to children, we also have to demonstrate that criminalizing art and fiction merely because they are “immoral” is generally illegal under international law.

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But how we can do it

Legally speaking, the best way to challenge laws is either in that country’s constitutional court (the Supreme Court in the case of the USA), or in a regional human rights court (the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Europe). But we are in no position to do that right now. Maybe in a few years time.

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Pauper internet pirates aren’t going to do it, that I know for sure.

How many users actually responded to it? I would assume most probably rolled their eyes or shrugged. I never got that thread however.

It’s a very disadvantageous position, as one can’t simply argue towards neutrality and free speech, but have to instead reverse the argument back onto them by saying that it is in-fact them who are endangering children by removing outlets. Very disadvantageous indeed.

Taking an absolutist standpoint towards everything doesn’t really help anyone and I also think that about a certain pro-contact who thinks that bashing through the underage sex laws and encouraging people to break it will eventually make it crumble. That isn’t really how it works and complicates things. Most of them are more lawful or neutral, but that one, I can’t tell if that was a troll.

Like i said in the first message, Human rights expert reminded us that fictional content is protected under international law, and also keep in mind that there are more countries(Denmark,Finland,Japan,Spain,Sweden for example) that decided to decriminalize lolicon rather than ones that actually criminalize it and also two of these(UK and Australia) lack of a real legislation about freedom of speech but yeah it’s still pretty controversial material that make puritans’s skin cramble. So what we can do is to enforce internation human rights law and try to put precedents in North American and European courts

Sexist comments from ATF aside, it is a fact that many people prefer sacrificing some of their fundamental things just to not be exposed to someone saying a n-word on the internet or seeing a loli picture. They don’t understand they’re putting a rope on their own neck when the demands pile up and people begin to vote into offices extreme authoritarians and despots.


It appears that someone was arrested over WRITTEN content, would this person challenge the law up to Supreme Court? I think he will since he claims that even drawings are art, i think we should look into this event