Why your stance on abortion is wrong

Originally published at: https://prostasia.org/blog/why-your-stance-on-abortion-is-wrong/

Abortion is a divisive, traumatizing topic for many people and in light of the bombshell Supreme Court decision, it’s easy to lament or celebrate depending on which side you’re on. Neither approach serves humanity’s best interests because neither reaction is going to help humanity, and helping humanity is vital if we’re going to prevent horrific,…

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Seems like sort of an odd title given the demographic likely to read this in the first place :man_shrugging:

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I’m aiming it at two different demographics, one of whom is likely to read it to find things to criticize Prostasia for.

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I’m not even focusing on abortion. There’s a reason why the US is called the United States, rather than the Republic or whatever. Federal powers should be kept at the minimum outlined in the Constitution. Everything else should be left up to the individual States. So pro-life or pro-choice in terms of abortion is simply irrelevant.

Civil disobedience. A lot of people seem to forget that first word when they burn or loot, and no, just because they are pitiable, or marginalized, or a minority, or whatever, doesn’t justify those actions. As someone who was robbed, sorry, not sorry, about not being sorry about the sob story that the burglar may or may not have.

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If we actually provided what people need to survive they wouldn’t need to rob, loot, and burn. But we don’t even give people those basic needs, exasperating harms. Quite honestly - and call me a jerk if you’d like - but when we’ve ostracized and before that outright enslaved people, I think a little looting and burning out of frustration over not being heard is cause and effect. If we can’t listen to people to the point where they feel so desperate they do these things, well, what else do we expect?

It’s also worth remembering that it was cops that started that shit in the first place, shooting rubber bullets and tear gas at seated protesters, not arresting cops for something that’s blatantly murder, instigating upset and angry people instead of hearing them out… we have police that are super willing to use so-called “nonlethal force” on Black Lives Matter protesters but then sit and do jack all about fascist Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. I’m not going to hold individualized violent acts against an entire group of people that are quite obviously being systemically oppressed.

As for states having the freedom to do what they want? I don’t think that applies to harmful policies, sorry.

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  1. I don’t recall enslaving anyone. Nor do the small businesses that were destroyed. Shared or inherited guilt is the way of Christianity. Spare me that nonsense.

  2. Like I said, methods are more important than motives. Which group is literally setting stuff on fire and physically assaulting people? I don’t think you want a precedent where violence and physical damage is totally justified, so long as you’re on the “right side of history”. Sorry, but I refuse to sharpen a sword that can one day be used on me. Systemically oppressed? Ever heard the book Almost Black (or at least a summary of it)?

  3. No, the federal government should be able to repeal laws easier than it can pass them, in general. Again, I look to see if such a power can be used on my interests, and if it can, it’s best that no one has that power, even if they plan to use it on something else entirely. I cover my own ass first. You’ve seen me post this video over and over, and I’ll do it again:

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I believe a lot of people just hop on some bandwagon in order to do those kinds of actions.

They don’t care about the cause. They’re just looking for an excuse to loot stuff.

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I know. There was a scene in Souten Kouro where Cao Cao’s forces saw a group of Yellow Turbans raping and pillaging a commoner village. Most of Cao Cao’s men expressed disgust at the rebel scum. However, Cao Cao said that the real rebels AKA the ones who actually believe in their cause are the ones marching on the capital, while these are just opportunists who just happen to wear the telltale yellow durags.

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1 is nothing more than a straw man. I’ll spare you that when history doesn’t matter anymore, which is never. The rest isn’t worth addressing, LLL1. Racism and systemic racism is real and people still feel the pains from stuff that’s happened mere decades ago. Ignoring that pain is not the way to move forward.

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I fundamentally agree, but being responsible for making the world a better place and being held personally responsible for ancestral transgressions are two very different things.

The people living today have a responsibility to learn from the past and avoid making the same mistakes in the future. We emphasize the horrors of slavery, imperialism, bigotry, war, etc., because we see how it continues to affect us to this day. For the sake of all humanity, we must be the best we can be. We must be educated in both history and science to avoid the pitfalls of ignorance and malpractice.

What I take umbrage with is when people come at me and talk to me like I personally owned slaves or committed genocide. This “sins of the father” junk is nonsense and counterproductive. It’s when people try to make me feel “white guilt” and shame me for my race then I start to tune people out.

It’s ironic, because I’m not fully white! I’m only 3/4 white (German, Irish, Scottish, Sicilian, Welsh, etc.). My grandmother on my mother’s side is a North Korean refugee! Her family lived through the WW2 era Japanese colonial period, so my ancestors know very well the horrors of slavery and racism. Should Japan make efforts to educate people on Japan gruesome war crimes (sexual slavery, human experimentation, genocide, etc.)? Obviously! Should historical revisionism in Japan (and everywhere else) get called out? Absolutely!

Should each and every individual Japanese person be shamed into submission for their grandparents’ sins? No!!! Should every Hutu in existence be talked of as an accessory to the Rwandan genocide? Heck no!!! Should future generations of Russians be personally ashamed of the Ukraine invasion? Hell no!!! But lots of gung-ho people wanna act like entire races/ethnicities/tribes/nations/etc. are monoliths who all support horrible things in equal measure across time and space. And that’s ridiculous!

The social and economic ramifications of past horrors that continue to haunt us to this day MUST be addressed. But NOBODY, especially children, should be made to feel like a bad person just cuz of their skin color. Literally had a white classmate back in middle school who suffered from this. When we watched stuff about slavery, he’d call himself a horrible person. It’s awful that’s the message he got from his education! And wasn’t there this white college professor a while back who straight-up committed suicide, leaving behind a wife and child, his suicide note explicitly stating his reason for doing so was because “white people are evil”? I understand that these extreme cases of white guilt are likely uncommon, but it’s still deeply disturbing to me that anybody could feel this way just because of their skin color…

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Like I said, if you talk about inherited sin, you no longer have the right to complain about Christians talking about original sin, unless you’re OK with being a hypocrite. Fuck, I’m the grandson of a CCP member, and my best friend is the grandson of a Wehrmacht soldier. We just laugh about the coincidence that we befriended each other. Guilt? What is that? A foreign concept to me.

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Yeah, I don’t think TNF_13 or most people actually meant to accuse actual present day white people of personally owning slaves or committing genocide, but aggressive rhetoric like ‘when we’ve ostracized and before that outright enslaved people, I think a little looting and burning out of frustration over not being heard is cause and effect’ does have a real effect on people’s mental health. I’m not even 1% white and I still felt guilty when I was in high school and they talked about how we’re living on stolen land (I’m Australian), and I distinctly recall wanting to move to another country to stop stealing the land

But when people try to bring this up, they get accused of trying to silence minorities from speaking up about their oppression and centering the discussion on the privileged group. The cultural left seems very tone-deaf wrt how they come across and genuinely seems to have no idea why people say they’re cultlike and obsessed with purity -.-

Granted there are people who really are acting in bad faith and using guilt to silence people from speaking up, and there are people who try to be compassionate while raising these very real harms that happened and the kind of thinking that lead to those atrocies that still exist today

But when people act like you’re personally accusing them of owning a slave, perhaps consider the possibility that they’re not trying to strawman you (general ‘you’, not you in particular Giacobbe), but you’ve actually said something that gives that impression even if you didn’t mean it. I’m not even asking you to change the way you communicate; tone policing has its own issues; but don’t act like the other person has literally no reason to feel accused, so they must be disingenuously trying to portray you as a jerk ^^;

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