Important moment of unity in the face of hate from the CSA prevention community on Twitter
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Nice to see the scientific community stand up in support of one of their own in the face of such drama.
I should really get around to looking at Allyn Walker’s work.
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It appears Walker has been put on administrative leave over the drama.
What a dreadful situation… They don’t deserve this.
@terminus is there anything that can be done for them?
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I know several people who already reached out to the university and there’s talk of an organized group of researchers doing the same but I’m not sure if that’s gone anywhere
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Lets hope.
I’m worried about Walker, but also how this outrage will affect future research.
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I guess the right loves cancel culture now?
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I call the Woke the Inquisitors of today, but that doesn’t mean that the Inquisitors of yesterday have all died out.
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They’ve always loved cancel culture. Hell, cancelling people they don’t politically agree with has been their MO since the beginning. Just look at the Scopes trial, where conservatives tried to put a science teacher in prison for teaching science as it was understood.
Conservatives simply do not believe in free speech. The moment something is uttered that goes against their ideas or beliefs, whereas all these leftists who shriek against “normalization” and what-not can somewhat be reasoned with if you can convince them that whatever they’re shrieking about is relatively or wholly harmless.
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Do we have a link somewhere to what this person said to incur this controversy?
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I drafted an email to their president and Allyn’s supervisor that included several of these
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I sent it and posted it publicly on my MAP Instagram
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Also made a petition
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I just going to repeat what I said once here. That’s why there is almost no research on topics related to pedophilia, because if the results don’t create a negative image of pedophilia, the researchers’ careers will be at risk.
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Them; I might not like what you say, but I’ll defend to the death the right for you to say it.
Also them; Get these type of people fired! Silence them all! Waaah!
It’s just awful that people get rewarded for being hypocrites!
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Yes for some reason the right only defends freedom of speech when the person being canceled is a racists, sexists, homophobe or transphobe.
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People are saying that Allyn Walker advocates for the use of actual child pornography because he believes such materials will help reduce rates of offenses.
I haven’t had time to go through all of Walker’s writings yet, but I have a high suspicion that this is either a miscommunication or a flat-out lie, considering that CSAM cannot exist unless an actual child was abused or exploited sexually, on camera, in order for it to exist, and allowing such material to exist would contradict any CSA prevention motifs in play here.
@terminus @elliot have either of you had time to review Walker’s work? Can you possibly tell me what the reality of the situation here is?
If they are advocating for the dissemination of CSAM, then supporting Walker may be problematic.
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That claim is based on their PhD thesis. I’ll admit I haven’t had a chance to go through the entire thing, but I did a ctrl+f search for “child pornography” and out of 45 results, the closest they came to advocating for it was saying that some MAPs use it as a way to avoid offending. They later went on to say that one of the shortcomings of support for MAPs is that those who do view CSAM don’t have sufficient help to stop viewing it.
There was also a point where they referred to “engrossing and high-quality child pornography,” but they were quoting directly from another source so those aren’t Professor Walkers’ words.
They also don’t differentiate between actual CSAM and drawings (they refer to everything as “child pornography”) so that could also help explain some of their statements.
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We need to ensure that this point is made more clear.
I’ll defend Walker’s work, but on the condition that it does not support or condone the use of actual children in the creation of sexually-explicit or pornographic material.
This could be a problem. People only care about such things if real children are involved, and not differentiating between the two is EXTREMELY problematic.
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True, but I’m guessing it was just because there weren’t any widespread terms to make a distinction between the two at the time of writing (hence not using CSAM rather than child pornography)
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