Censorship of 2d characters

Anyone can tell me what the new bills in canada, australia and uk is about? I heard it could affect people outside of the respective countries

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I’m not sure what bill you talking about.

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IDK the bill name for all but for canada i think its C-11?

I briefly read c11 and it doesn’t seem to do with loli or other fictional porn.

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First I’m hearing of anything new relating to the UK as well…

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It’s something I saw on twitter that linked to a article I can’t find the tweet that talked about the laws in canada, uk and australia, with australia I think it’s about the to luv ru ban

I briefly read c11 and it doesn’t seem to do with loli or other fictional porn.

Correct, Bill C-11 is also known as the Copyright Modernization Act. I don’t know much about it (or even understand it), but here’s what the Wikipedia page says about it:

The Act contained many significant provisions. It:

  • Makes explicit allowance for time shifting, format shifting and backup copies as long as no digital locks are involved.
  • Expands the scope of fair dealing to include education, satire, and parody which enables users to make use of fragments of copyrighted works if no digital locks are involved.
  • Introduces a new exception for user-generated content created using copyrighted works without digital locks.
  • Prohibits the circumvention of digital locks, even for personal use, with some limited exceptions (such as unlocking cell phones).
  • Limits the amount of statutory damages for cases of non-commercial infringement to between $100 and $5,000 for all infringements in a single proceeding for all works. Statutory damages for commercial infringement range from $500 to $20,000 per work infringed.
  • Adopts a “notice-and-notice” regime which requires ISPs to forward any notice alleging infringement received from copyright owners to the subscribers in question.
  • Allows an educational institution or a person acting under its authority to reproduce a work, or do any other necessary act, in order to display it.
  • Allows libraries to reproduce works in its permanent collection in alternate formats if the original format is obsolete, or if the technology required to use the original is no longer available.
  • Requires educational institutions to ensure that copyrighted course materials are destroyed 30 days after the end of said course.
  • Requires libraries to place a five-day time limit on material borrowed electronically.
  • Makes performers and photographers the primary owners of their commissioned works.
  • Calls for a review of copyright law every five years.

TL;DR Bill C-11 was just a bill that updated the copyright law of Canada.

Well, that sucks. It’s not surprising, given how they’ve started banning certain terms or artworks (at least, from what I heard).

But, calling lolicon “offensive art” seems a bit of a stretch, no?

If lolicon artists can no longer post their artwork on the site, they’ll just go somewhere else. Although, the number of sites that forbid these artworks seems to be growing over time.

Any idea as to why they decided to ban lolicon from their site (apart from morals or, perhaps, laws in jurisdictions outside of Japan)?

It’s only prohibited on Fanbox… (for now).

And it’s because of payment processors like Visa, Mastercard and their overwhelming hard-on for censorship.

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I don’t think this is the case.

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It’s the Mastercard thing, right?

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Yeah… It doesn’t make sense for Pixiv to do this since in their own press release they admit that these things were already laid out on their ToS.

Pixiv already banned child pornography/child abuse images. It mentions it several times in their Master ToS as well as in their policies regarding paid services, but still allows loli and people to profit off of it.

I want to say that Pixiv is referring to materials depicting ACTUAL instances of it? Like there may have been instances of people misusing their services to share bestiality or gore images?

But I’m not sure. I’ve asked them in a Support Inquiry to clarify what all of this means. Visa and Mastercard’s rules may be a meaningful factor, but I’m still unsure.

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That’s probably the case. If it’s in those terms, then usually implies the real stuff. Like I said, like with Jast, just use a disclaimer that everyone is 18+ at the beginning of the game. For example, Gore Screaming Show has a certain flashback sex scene… But that’s still fine to have in the game.

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I’m hopeful that this isn’t what people are claiming it will be. It’s not like these images would be banned from Pixiv proper, just these specific services that rely on payment gateways.

I’ve never actually paid for content via Fanbox, Booth, or Request. Are they direct, instantaneous payments or does it work like a fiat wallet that you top-off with fixed amounts? If not, then wouldn’t it be wise to switch to that sort of system? I know that DLsite and other platforms which do work with PayPal and other payment gateways, that also host these types of materials, function this way, possibly as a means to get by these mark requirements.

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Yes, about that, how does DLsite do this, or is it because it’s less well-known than Pixiv and the moral guardian scumbags are not only censor-happy but also stupid enough not to notice everything?

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I’ll bite on this.

Sometimes I see photographic CSEM being posted by spambots to the site. I’ve reported at least 50 accounts alone in the last two months.

And it’s surprising that pixiv isn’t using a system like PhotoDNA because it’s the same images every single time.

And one person was uploading CSEM with one of those photoshop filters applied and claiming it was “AI generated” - this was before StableDiffusion etc. - This person was also selling stuff on Fanbox as well.

I reported that guy at least three times to no avail because pixiv are useless.

I reported the account to the FBI in the end in the hopes they would escalate it.

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Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking about as well.

That user and Pixiv’s shocking inaction, along with several other users of a similar nature, is what prompted myself and several other people to contact the Japanese National Police to make sure they’re aware and to take action against Pixiv for knowingly facilitating this shit since they weren’t doing anything to stop it.

Well… fast forward maybe…what - in September? That account and several others were gone, and Pixiv seems to be on the ball with this type of enforcement now.

It’s likely that this fallout is the result of all of that, where they’re targeting photographs and not art.

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And yet, there was no such clarification on the announcements.

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It’s amazing how many people are justifying this ban because of bots selling CSEM.

Oh, if only there was some kind of International law in place that already prevents that… :thinking:

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I’ve asked them in a Support Inquiry to clarify what all of this means.

Looking forward to seeing what their response is, if they respond. I hope your speculation is correct, and it is indeed Pixiv cracking down on photographs as opposed to art. I like being able to actually support these artists, and the alternatives I see Pixiv users suggesting are not available in English. Artists moving to these Japanese-only platforms would block me and other english speakers from being able to support artists, and instead force us to go back to getting the art through unofficial methods.

Are they direct, instantaneous payments or does it work like a fiat wallet that you top-off with fixed amounts? If not, then wouldn’t it be wise to switch to that sort of system? I know that DLsite and other platforms which do work with PayPal and other payment gateways, that also host these types of materials, function this way, possibly as a means to get by these mark requirements.

This is exactly what I think they should do. I’ve seen many sites use this sort of “points” system that you top up in order to get around various bans. Last I checked, Nutaku did this to get around PayPal banning adult content. I know it’s not an uncommon practice.

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