Study: Doll ban increases risk of offending

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https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/abstract/10.1055/a-2269-5877?device=mobile

A new study has been published that questioned 40 people who were affected by the ban of “Childlike Sex Dolls” in Germany.

Results
Users most frequently mentioned (negative) effects on their (mental) health. Increased insecurity and perceived social and political discrimination were also reported. Participants reported an increase in problematic behaviour, such as viewing child sexual abuse images again, and that they were no longer able to live out their sexuality legally.

Conclusion
From the perspective of those affected, the ban on child sex dolls has a negative impact on their lives and the risk of sexualized violence against children. The available data do not provide any evidence that the tightening of the law serves to protect children, although the study design has limitations in this respect.

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This is gold. If it’s proven that it’s actually harmful banning sex dolls, then the more likely sex dolls are going to be legalized.

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Can we all say “told you so”!! Banning these things doesn’t help protect children, it endangers children.

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What? We literally have shows trying to say that even lusting after dolls is “wrong”:

The only mistake here is not having a command override code, like what Ulysses did to call ED-E in Fallout New Vegas.

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Never saw such a well made satire.

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If it’s satire, fine, but either it’s not, the “people” in the comments are too stupid to realize it.

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Oh, it’s not a satire of how people act regarding dolls? I thought it was the case. Also, I found the comparatives between a serial killer killing animals with a pedophile using a doll kinda non sense.

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It’s said that children who like torturing animals and killing them grow up to be serial murderers. Yeah, well, they’re practicing the real thing on the real thing! So how many people who got into playing violent videos games, go out and become violent criminals? Like people playing Grand Theft Auto suddenly becoming carjackers and killers?

The same morons and their pretzel logic say people who own and/or masturbate with child-like dolls are just “practicing and feeding their desires to go after children”. So why aren’t people who own full size sex dolls out there raping women?

Then there are those of us who just like having them around to not feel so alone and really don’t do anything with them except make them look pretty, changing their outfits and/or doing different hairstyles with them. :heart:

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Oh, no, this really appears to be an attempt to say that people who choose to engage in fantasies using literal fake people are just as bad as those who do the same to real people.

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Because apparently they only simulate consensual relationships. IIRC, there was some case about someone programming in “raped reactions” to full size sex dolls that have some electronic components.

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Of course. How unironic.

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Also: They don’t use animals to avoid killing humans, they use animals to practice or even to satisfy their urges because they are weaker. Completely different purposes.

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Of COURSE they did. Every doll user I’ve ever spoken with have anthropized a piece of plastic. In absolutely NO WAY can I find this to be healthy. No way.

The problems already existed. The child sex dolls were a coping mechanism, and in my opinion, an unhealthy one.

Pedophiles (like myself) need to be learning how to build real relationships with real people; not hiding in dark corners, jerking off and screwing plastic.

It had a negative impact, imo, because it was jerked away from them through simple force of law; there was no support and no empathy for the psychological implications. To most doll users I have encountered, they see their dolls as (at least somewhat) real people. Snatching them away abruptly caused feelings of loss; with which they failed to effectively cope (which is no surprise to me because I believe dolls are ineffective coping mechanisms to begin with).

I’m not saying that dolls cause offending. That’s not it. There is no qualitative data to show that. Hell, if that were the case, I think we’d be finding child sex dolls in the raided homes of pornographers.

I’m saying that I am convinced that they are an unhealthy coping mechanism and should be discouraged. They replace reality with fantasy. Visiting fantasy once in a while, I think is fine; I do that myself quite frequently; but living there is a different thing entirely. To me, that’s what it seems that doll users do.

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You have no idea. Literally look up fictosexuality and re-read your entire comment. Unlike pedophilia fictophilia is recognized as part of LGBT and not classified as a disorder in any case (Frontiers | Fictosexuality, Fictoromance, and Fictophilia: A Qualitative Study of Love and Desire for Fictional Characters).

Telling people who have genuine relationships with a fictional character in the form of a doll that they are “coping” makes you not any better than those telling pedophiles to castrate themselves. There are pedophiles who are part fictophile and genuinely love their doll. Some even cannot and do not want a relationship with a human being.

Your comment is disgusting and a cope in itself. Stop projecting your own internalized insecurity onto others.

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I couldn’t agree more. I call my dolls surrogates. They fill in the missing relationships in my life that A) I’ve never had, B) will never have; that at a certain point (due to age) can NEVER be fulfilled. I was ready to end it when I discovered them and they’ve been the fulfillment of my desire to be a parent and have a family of my own.

They are not always about sex. Were not all “jerking off and screwing plastic”. Sadly, the reality says differently. I’d mucg rather people “use” them rather than offending and gurting a real person. Taking them away causes grief and throws people back into their miserable loneliness.

As “an unhealthy coping mechanism” you say, Incognito (coward), you couldn’t be more wrong! What is your “fantasy” that you “visit…once in a while”? Lolicon??

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You see, that’s become a real problem with these “social reform” movements in this day and age: If one hits a point of disagreement, we’re automatically enemies. We either agree 100% in every nuance, or we’re enemies. That’s bullshit. We’re not enemies; we simply have different opinions.

Something does not have to be a disorder to be unhealthy. “But its not a disorder” is not an argument.

I do not care what is and is not covered under the expanding umbrella of LGBT. I support gay and trans rights, but “there are 69 genders” and other such outlandish claims are not backed by science; they’re backed by subjective opinions. What they cover and what they claim is irrelevant; its what they can prove.

“Fictosexuality” or related terms do not appear in diagnostic criteria manuals, either. It’s a term used on the internet by fans and defenders of the same.

Dolls and fictitious characters can not love you back. They can not return the emotional investment given to it. The relationship is completely one-sided and figments of the imagination.

It’s not a “genuine relationship”. It is not possible to have a “genuine relationship” with an inanimate object. A “genuine relationship” requires the participation of two parties.

To genuinely love an inanimate object with the idea that it loves you back is delusional.

Not only am I pedophile, I am exclusive. No relationship with a child can ever reach the depth my sexual and romantic natures want it to go. Likewise, my relationships with adults will always lack a certain thrill, fulfillment and depth. I’m okay and quite secure with each and every bit of this, thank you very much – because at least those relationships are real.

Lastly, I certainly do not believe a MAP should get castrated. This is you assuming you know everything about me based on one point of contention. That’s ridiculous. I ardently discourage this practice, especially when its physical. However, its a highly individualized and intimately personal choice in which, after I have expressed my misgivings, I leave up to them. I have known MAPs who have undergone this procedure, either chemically or physically, and have reported satisfaction with the results. It’s not for me to force them to keep their balls, and its not for me to force them to chop them off. At least one state in the union has decided to forcefully castrate sex offenders. I think this is grotesque and I believe (and hope) it will fail supreme court challenge. The State needs to keep their hands off of other peoples’ genitals. The fascination with this is sick.

I think I’ve said everything I need to say on these topics; further comments will simply be regurgitating the same. You may do with them as you will.

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Hello, island.

First, I wish to extend my deepest empathy for your loneliness. The part about calling your dolls “surrogates” actually touched my heart. I know full well the idea that we can never be “fulfilled”. I have become (as Pink Floyd said it, “comfortably numb”) with this. I hate it when something comes up in my life when I feel that which I am usually numb to. Those are tough times.

I understand that these are not always about sex. My irritation came through with that comment. And yes, I’d rather see someone expressing their sexual pent-up feelings on an inanimate object rather than taking them out on a real child.

I understand (and even stated in my OP) that taking them away causes grief and throws people back into their miserable loneliness; which is why I criticized just snatching them away without considering the psychological implications. But you see, that “loneliness being filled”? I can’t see that it is; because, as I have stated repeatedly, its not real. Absolutely nothing can replace real human to human contact.

When I am upset enough, I turn to friends and family for support. I have MAP friends and I have understanding siblings I can turn to when it comes to my MAPness. Once, I fell so in LOVE with this 8 year old, and I grieved hard. One of my brothers pressured me into opening up and I was afraid to; normies tend to not understand what its like to fall in love with a child. He paused, sighed, thought it through, then said; “I don’t know what its like to be in love with a child, Incognito. But I do know what its like feel love that you can’t say and you have to bottle up. In my own ways, I’ve been there. I’m so sorry your going through this”. Broke me down; what a wonderful person to have in my life.

I hope that you can someday find other ways to fill your loneliness or mitigate it to a manageable level rather than depending so heavily on fantasy. Again, I have a heart, and it goes out to you.

The “fantasy” I visit once in a while include: Masturbation (quite frequently), Videos and pictures of little girls (dancing, gymnastics, or swimsuits), listening to pornhub (when I have trouble with sexual functioning, the sounds help), and occasionally, family nudist sites. They are listed in the order of use.

But I do not build fantasy relationships and instead, seek out real relationships with real people.

I extend my wishes for peace to you.

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It does not appear in diagnostic materials, because it is not a disorder, Genius. Humans have had relationships with inaminate objects and non-existant beings for thousands of years (e. g. Religion). It is nothing new.

You not understanding something does not make it unhealthy. Not everyone needs human companionship, not everyone needs sex. Stop projecting your, or general human desires onto everyone. Is it that difficult? You sound like someone who would have justified attacks on gay people, because it is “unhealthy”.

Holy shit.

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I hate religion. It is a scourge on humanity.

People doing something for thousands of years is not a yardstick by which we measure whether or not something is healthy. Neither is “But it makes me feel good” is a yardstick by which we measure the same.

Non-sequiturs.

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