What would happen to the USA if adult content was completely banned?

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What would happen to the USA if adult content was completely banned and declared illegal? As a Christian, I am not for Christian Nationalism in the USA. Christian Nationalism and the United States Constitution do not go together at all. I am not for all adult content being banned either.

I think if all kind of adult content was banned in the USA, it would be similar to the fictional novel 1984.

Businesses that sold adult content in the past would have to shutdown and end up losing money if such measures were implemented. Adult comedy clubs would not be able to operate in the USA anymore.

Also, how do you define what is adult content even? PG13 could contain adult content. PG could also contain adult content too.

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A complete ban would be impractical now. It could not be managed.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/the-ongoing-challenge-to-define-free-speech/sexual-expression-and-free-speech/

It’s interesting that before Comstock, as mentioned in the article, there were no such restrictions.

Recently, I asked perplexity about the history of obscenity. It rendered an interesting response.

I thought it was interesting that it didn’t mention United States v. One Book Called" Ulysses" 1933, because the decision suggests the framing of Roth and Miller.

Based on the information provided in the search results, here is a summary of the history of obscenity law in the United States:
Early History
In ancient times, sexual explicitness in art, literature, and media was generally accepted and not regulated by the state.
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In the 16th century, the English state was only concerned with censoring sedition, blasphemy, and heresy, not obscenity. The term “bawdy” did not have a negative connotation at the time.
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Obscenity Laws Emerge
In the 19th century, obscenity laws began to emerge in the U.S., largely due to the efforts of groups like the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice.
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In 1873, the federal Comstock Act prohibited the mailing of “obscene,” “lewd,” or “lascivious” material, including sex education materials.
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Early 20th Century Obscenity Rulings
In the early 20th century, the Hicklin test from the UK was adopted in the U.S., which allowed courts to judge material based on its effect on the most susceptible individuals.
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This led to the banning of works like Theodore Dreiser’s “An American Tragedy” and D.H. Lawrence’s “Lady Chatterley’s Lover.”
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Roth v. United States (1957)
In 1957, the Supreme Court’s Roth v. United States decision ruled that obscenity was not protected by the First Amendment.
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However, the Court rejected the Hicklin test and seemed to impose a more flexible “redeeming social value” standard.
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Miller v. California (1973)
In 1973, the Miller v. California decision established the current “Miller test” for obscenity, focusing on whether material “lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.”
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This test, based on “contemporary adult community standards,” remains the basis for obscenity law in the U.S. today.
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So in summary, obscenity law in the U.S. evolved from a hands-off approach to increasingly restrictive laws, culminating in the modern Miller test established by the Supreme Court in 1973.
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That thing is fun.

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/What-is-the-2M9Mb5NKR1O3PnWORs.Jcw

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-is-the-3HEAzOy8TyCJuf4Oc4TB1Q

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You can also include the Hayes Code from 1930.

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Probably an increase in sexual offense crimes and child abuse.

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It’s already happening. Just not from the government:

There’s a reason why I’m not particularly afraid of state fascism. Having it come from a private source is no consolation, so isn’t better if everyone suffers?

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Don’t worry, Hollywood will still me making these unbearable Rated “R”, teasing, sexually leading, sprinkled with sexual innuendo style jokes, pieces of crap, garbage films they slam down your throat of social acceptance. Always skirting around the edges. Status quo. Disney went woke and gender approving, sexually charged; while actually Hollywood has turned back into a 1950s, clean cut, straight arrow, sitcom.

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This is probably the most dangerous form. The government can’t censor speech, but hate groups can pressure financial services monopolies into effectively doing the same thing and then claiming that such censorship is within their own first amendment rights (in the US at least)

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Yep, there’s a reason… Well, many reasons why “spooky” state fascism doesn’t scare me.

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I’m afraid that is exactly the case.

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I’m vindictive enough to feel schadenfreude at the fact that, if my freedoms are lost, so should everyone else’s. Getting shadowbanned from the YouTube comments section for example. Therefore, I wish that Elon would buy YouTube, too. Might not make things better for me, but it would sure as hell make things worse for my enemies.

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The only correct course of action would be to absolve the obscenity doctrine in its entirety, and adopt an ‘actionable indecency’ or ‘strict scrutiny’ approach that looks out for the rights of actual minors and those who may be captive audiences to, or are unwittingly exposed to explicit material.

Overturn Miller and Roth in their entirety. The obscenity doctrine is to the First Amendment what ‘separate but equal’ was to the Fourteenth; wholly impractical, fundamentally incompatible, and patently antithetical to their respective purposes and functions.

Freedom of speech cannot function when matters of ideology or preference are conflated to be matters of fact, something which they objectively are not.

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I somehow doubt the current Supreme Court is likely to decide that way.

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Even if you make porn illegal you wouldn’t be able to remove it from the internet, porn is illegal in China yet it’s still widely consumed: if China can’t block porn a democracy most likely can’t

You need at the very least most of the free world to declare porn illegal at the same time

The best you can hope for is it’ll harm porn monetisation, but it’ll probably find a way with crypto or other means

Porn is so widely consumed its total illegality would create so many problems and probably spawn a lot of illegal organizations like prohibitionism did

Probably erode government trust too: it’s not worth it

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The recent DLsite incident shows that the government is not our only enemy. Like I said, I just realized that I don’t care much for freedom, like credit cards refusing to process payments, when it takes away from my freedom.

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The trick that gets pulled is they’ll offer you convenience in exchange for some freedom. We fall for it all the time!
“Wanna feel safer?” Give up some freedom!
“Wanna save money?” Give up some freedom!
“So much more convenient!” Give up some freedom!

Always duplicitousness abounding!

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I have no qualms about making my enemies feel less safe, but I can enjoy what I do. Fuck, like I said, if this is the payment processor exercising their freedom, I would have no crisis of conscience taking their freedom to ensure my own.

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Except porn is protected free speech and has been since cave man first drew a boob on his wall with charcoal. Why shouldn’t porn, which is a recognized art form, be protected speech?
Religious excuses won’t fly, since not everyone believes in old Canaanite war gods, and freedoms are not granted by the church.

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Can’t, at least not in California. People vs Freeman (1987) effectively legalized it. But this ruling only applies to California. The same obscenity laws that were used to prosecute Deep Throat are still on the books. Florida has a really big porn industry, but it’s the same state that prosecuted Max Hardcore, Rob Zicari, and Mike Diana (He was on probation for 20 years. His crime? Drawing comix). Elections are around the corner, something’s going to happen if it hasn’t already.

Fighting porn makes for great politics, but at the end of the day there’s little to show for it. And they know that, it’s just about winning votes. Sesta/Fosta were signed by Trump and what happened? They moved all of those sites to overseas domains.

If ISP’s were to ban something, anything, a quick fix is to change dns (or use a vpn).

We (California) banned vape sales, but it’s business as usual at stores. It has no teeth. We also signed a law requiring condoms for porn in LA county, that lasted about a week. Probably rambling at this point but it reminds me of the last 20 years they’ve been trying to shut down the pirate bay. Hasn’t worked, won’t work, but politicians love this crap because it helps them win elections. Not even going to mention Desantis, that’s for another day. Or never.

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See. I was born in commie China, and I left that shithole (no, seriously, the plumbing is terrible there, if not nonexistent). I don’t want its oppressive laws to follow me to the US. And you know what? For freedom, I’m more than willing to take it along with racism, sexism, etc. And while I am a man, I am definitely not white (unless you count fair-skinned Asians as white adjacent, of course), so spare me your “secret cabal of white men controlling the world” conspiracy theory.

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Get your commie policies out of this country, preferably out of this existence.

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