Censorship of 2d characters

[anon81903312]

@anon81903312

-At 8:45, the narrator introduces us to Takashi Kato (a convicted pedophile) and says:

Takashi Kato was once a massive consumer of this pornographic manga. He was also a serial child sex abuser.

Note: There’s a thread on the forum that goes over an article that VICE wrote about Takashi Kato: Fiction News - Biased and Misleading Vice Article

I should’ve mentioned this in my post, but Hanako Montgomery is the author of the article on Takashi Kato. There’s a thread on the forum that goes over another VICE article written by Montgomery: Recent Vice article on why Japan hasn't banned loli

Here’s a Twitter thread in which a user shows articles written by Montgomery and shows misinformation that VICE is spreading: https://twitter.com/fateCEOavi/status/1595104651891949575

Here’s an Imgur thread containing screenshots of VICE articles and tweets (not to mention controversies and hyprocrisy): https://imgur.com/a/tfvZD

Here’s an example from the Imgur thread that I just linked:

Here’s another example (note the article on the right was written by Hanako Montgomery):

Last example:

They don’t care about children’s rights. They just want Japan to ban a type of media that they find disgusting. This is more like propaganda than actual journalism.

[suky]

Thank you for that image, and given how vague UK laws can be, I would not be surprised if some AI hentai fan got in the crosshairs to be put as an example. Being realistic though, that’s all that will happen.

[LegalLoliLover1]

By its own admission, it is 14. The most hilarious thing is that it believes that I have “no other choice” than to listen to it. It must be unaware of the block button.

[suky]

Even worse. This individual has no idea what they are talking about

[Giacobbe]

1. 100% off-topic non-sequitur, but you ever notice how utterly MASSIVE the breasts are in AI-generated images? Most AI images like this I’ve seen have absolutely humongous chests! Not that I’m complaining , but it’s really funny to me !

2. I’m legitimately impressed at advances in AI-generated images recently. The future is now! It definitely makes me interested to see how far this goes; it certainly raises some interesting legal questions. I’ve brought this up before, but technology will inevitably advance to being able to successfully replicate realism. How does freedom of expression and freedom of the press survive when you can make anything you want seem so real? A photo of a politician behaving badly, or an AI-generated piece of slander? A true CSAM video, or a realistic animation unable to be detected as fake? I truly believe the tech will advance to this point (maybe in my lifetime, maybe not), and the legal quagmire it’ll create is an unpleasant prospect…

[LegalLoliLover1]

As expected of the subhuman Vice cretins:

Japanese Politician just exposed Vice news

[suky]

I am optimistic that those fake images which are indistinguishable will come with technology that can detect real from fake. And when that technology comes, the law will have to be amended again to take that into account, as there would be no excuse of “what if it’s real?”

[anon81903312]

Wow, I figured that there was something weird about that part of the video. It makes so much sense now.

As for the part about Kato…

@Jigsy

@anon81903312

Note: Then, why’d you do it? Oh right, the hentai manga made you do it.

In the case of this guy, he was molesting children long before he got into Manga. I’m sure Vice is probably claiming that the effect of Manga is retroactive, though…

I don’t know for sure if he started abusing kids before or after he started reading hentai manga. In the video, Kato says:

@anon81903312

I was in middle school. I’d look at children and get very aroused. When I was in college, I found these porn magazines. There was a manga that depicted sexual abuse of young children. That very quickly became my whole sexual world.

So, he clearly had a sexual attraction to children before he read any hentai manga, but the video doesn’t mention him molesting children before he read any.

Also, in the VICE article that I linked about him, Kato says:

I knew it was against the law, but I convinced myself that I was making the child feel good, so the law was the one that was wrong.

This part was not in the video, only in the article. He knew it was wrong, but went along with it anyway.

I read through the article and Montgomery writes this:

Despite the lack of definitive scientific evidence proving the comics’ harmful impact, anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise. This has compelled activists, psychiatrists who treat child sex abusers, and the international community to call on Japan to ban the illustrations. These critics argue that allowing the drawings to circulate freely normalizes and monetizes what they think is child sex abuse. Scientific evidence is also impossible to obtain, they say, as any experiments testing the comics’ effect could further harm children.

For now, the argument has appeared to reach a stalemate. Neither critics nor supporters of this manga have been able to definitively prove which side is right, thus allowing such material to be tolerated and available in Japanese society.

Note: This should go without saying, but anecdotal evidence is not scientific evidence. Correlation does not equal causation.

Later on, during her interview with Akiyoshi Saito (who is the last person she interviews in the video), Montgomery writes:

But the abusers aren’t the only ones at fault. Japanese society is also a culprit, he said, because no one is born sexually attracted to kids.

“The adults should protect the children; they shouldn’t be an object of consumption,” he said.

“If we were a society that strictly protected children’s rights, regardless of the concerns about freedom of expression, these materials wouldn’t be allowed,” he said.

Well, at least it’s not the UK.

[LegalLoliLover1]

Like I said, I don’t believe in turning the other cheek. I want 9 times more blood for blood. There might be an opportunity here:

Controversial Vice Journalist May Be In Trouble...

The creature who spewed that Vice hit piece might have broken the law. If so, is there any way to make sure that it suffers as a result?

[anon81903312]

@anon81903312

We asked a bunch of these stores whether we can film inside, but none of them said “yes”, so we actually have to go inside with a hidden camera and see just kind of how on display these books are.

@anon81903312

The stores don’t want to risk bad publicity and we can see why. We visited a few of them, but we can’t show you what’s on the shelves because it’s too sexually graphic.

@anon81903312

And this whole aisle here is just sexual abuse, child pornography. It’s like every other page we can’t film because it’s just so much sex in it.

Maybe it wasn’t because of “bad publicity” that the store owners refused to allow them to film in their stores. Perhaps they don’t allow people to do so for copyright or privacy reasons.

[Jigsy]

It’s illegal due to privacy reasons, I believe.

[suky]

I agree with LegalLoliLover1: I think these people need a taste of their own medicine.

[LegalLoliLover1]

Again, at 9 times the dose of said medicine.

[anon81903312]

In March 2022, Hanako Montgomery did a Q&A here: https://asiaundercovered.substack.com/p/asia-undercovered-q-and-a-hanako

Here are some things that she says during the Q&A:

When I’m interviewing in Japanese, I’ll be asked more times to see the full article before it gets published. Here I feel like people are more concerned about having something defamatory written about them. I think freedom of speech and freedom of the press isn’t as strong of a value here in Japan, and actually Japan ranks quite low globally on this.

They have valid concerns, especially if they’re being interviewed by a VICE reporter.

The way Japan is portrayed is often alarmist or clickbait-y. I understand why that kind of media comes about, especially in our current digital climate where it’s all about how much attention you can grab and win. But at the same time, it does perpetuate a stereotype. I grew up with that in New York, learning how people saw Japan. Often the stereotypes were that Japan is sexually repressed but at the same time very “hentai”. It is disappointing to see that these stereotypes still prevail.

So, you promise to not make a video that suggests that lolicon is linked to child abuse, despite no scientific evidence for it, right? RIGHT?

I wish there was more space to understand a culture beyond a headline, beyond what is interesting for the first five seconds. I hope that in 10 or 20 years we might come to a point where we know Fukushima not just for the nuclear disaster, but also for its heritage and history. People can educate themselves beyond media headlines, but I think it’s also the part of the media’s job to present countries beyond stereotypes.

FTFY: I hope that in 10 or 20 years we might come to a point where we know lolicon isn’t linked to child abuse, as there is no scientific evidence for it. People should educate themselves beyond media headlines.

Bi-racialism is a topic that I think has so many different shades, no pun intended. For example, growing up in a very white community in New York I felt extremely Asian, and desperately wanted to be white. If I had grown up in Japan, I would probably have had a very different experience. That’s changed now, I’ve learned to accept and appreciate my Japanese heritage, and my curiosity now allows me to work as a journalist in Japan.

In terms of how it shaped my career, it’s been an extreme privilege being able to understand Japanese culture whilst also understanding the American audience, and being able to bridge the two. It’s been wonderful using my background in this way, and I hope I’m using it well. Being able to speak and read and write Japanese, I do think that it creates a bit more sense of trust with the local audience, because there’s no translator in between me, the interviewer, and the interviewee. Knocking down that wall can create some vulnerability and some intimacy that might not be as easily achieved if there were a translator.

But there are also negative sides to this. I’m thinking back to a story I covered on child pornography, where I would often be described by local readers as an American reporter, someone who was an outsider. Another example is that because of my own understanding of Japanese culture, I don’t necessarily explain everything about Japan in my first draft. And then my editor will ask me to explain what something means or where it’s coming from, for our American audience.

I can’t imagine why Japanese readers would call her an “American reporter”.

[Era_Blaze]

just looked into it and one of the backers and signatures of this loli ban is the same one in the vice interview

[Jigsy]

The child molester or the woman who was caught selling porn to minors?

[Era_Blaze]

The one who sold porn, she runs the anti-trafficking org PAPS and shes associated with Colabo(these people started a campaign against onsen musume concerning anime girls and hot spas)

[anon81903312]

While Kazuna Kanajiri’s Wikipedia page doesn’t mention this, I did found out about this on Twitter.

I found some people mention a user named “disca” here. From that page, two Japanese Twitter users mentioned this person (here and here).

As it turns out, this “disca” used to be Kanajiri’s Twitter account: https://twitter.com/rayforcegame/status/1459484617598111745

This is her “disca” Twitter account (joined November 2007): https://twitter.com/disca

And this is her current Twitter account (joined May 2019): https://mobile.twitter.com/kazuna_kanajiri

Unrelated to this, but Kanajiri was interviewed in this BBC article (from January 2015): Why hasn't Japan banned child-porn comics? - BBC News (Wow, BBC is really similar to VICE)

Update: Someone reuploaded the VICE video on lolicon, meaning Japanese audiences can now view it: https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm41409499

[Jigsy]

@anon81903312

Unrelated to this, but Kanajiri was interviewed in this BBC article (from January 2015): Why hasn’t Japan banned child-porn comics? - BBC News (Wow, BBC is really similar to VICE)

Ironically, that piece came out on the day of the Charlie Hebdo attack. The BBC have zero credibility.

[anon81903312]

I found the “Voltaire’s gift” article (which came out the day after the Charlie Hebdo attack): Viewpoint: The roots of the battle for free speech - BBC News

The article was written by historian Tom Holland (don’t confuse him with the MCU Spider-Man actor). Here are some things that he wrote in it:

To the gunmen who yesterday launched their murderous attack on the Charlie Hebdo office, it is the mockery of a prophet whom they feel should exist beyond even a hint of criticism. Between these two positions, when they are prosecuted with equal passion and conviction on both sides, there cannot possibly be any accommodation.

Unlike Charlie Hebdo, I had not set out to give offence. I am no satirist, and I do not usually enjoy hurting people’s feelings. Nevertheless, I too feel that some rights are worthy of being defended - and among them is the freedom of historians to question the origin myths of religions. That was why, when I heard the news from Paris yesterday, I chose to do something I would never otherwise have done, and tweet a Charlie Hebdo cartoon of Muhammad.

The BBC, by contrast, has decided not to reproduce the cartoon for this article. Many other media organisations - though not all - have done the same. I refuse to be bound by a de facto blasphemy taboo.

While under normal circumstances I am perfectly happy not to mock beliefs that other people hold dear, these are far from normal circumstances. As I tweeted yesterday, the right to draw Muhammad without being shot is quite as precious to many of us in the West as Islam presumably is to the Charlie Hebdo killers.

We too have our values - and if we are not willing to stand up for them, then they risk being lost to us. When it comes to defining l’infâme, I for one have no doubt whose side I am on.

Also, here’s a Twitter thread that Holland posted (the idea that Muhammad was a pedophile might not actually be true): https://twitter.com/holland_tom/status/1055752680944099328?lang=en

Holland posted that Twitter thread in response to this thread: https://twitter.com/AmarAmarasingam/status/1055522513042714625